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BE IT REMEMBERED, that the White County Drainage Board held a regular meeting on Monday, October 5, 2015. The meeting was held at the White County Building, 2nd floor, Commissioners’ conference room beginning at 10:30 a.m.

Drainage Board members present were: President Steve Burton, Vice President John Heimlich and Member David Diener. Also, present were the White County Attorney George W. Loy, White County Surveyor Bradley E. Ward and the Surveyor’s Assistant Sharon Broussard.

Others present were:

Mike Kyburz – WCHD Supt. J.D. Smith – WCHD

Sharon Watson – White County Soil & Water Todd Frauhiger, P.E. – AECOM

Gordon Denton-landowner Brent Culver-FNC Hall Fall

Constance J. Hines –family farm landowner Mr. Hines

Jon Okos – Okos Family Farms Larry Storm – landowner

Robert Stevenson-Stevenson Farms Inc. Bob Thompson-Thompson Farms

William Tully-landowner

President Burton called the meeting to order.



  • Vice President Heimlich made a motion to approve the minutes as presented for the regular meeting held on September 21, 2015; seconded by Member Diener.

Vote: Unanimous


This discussion is continued from February 2, 2015. At that time Surveyor Ward was instructed to proceed with the engineering design. There was a meeting in the Surveyor’s office (across hall) on August 17, 2015 to update the landowners and discuss the watershed concerns.


The petition was carried by Gordon Denton. The maintenance fund has $11,395.45. White County currently collects $3.00 per acre and $5.00 minimum. The annual assessment is $3,186.32. The four year maximum is $12,745.28 and is on the 2015 assessment report. This is in Big Creek & Prairie Township, White County. There are 1,082.359 acres assessed in the watershed with approximately a dozen landowners. The tile is about two (2) miles long and there is 13,800 feet of tile going from 18” to 10”. The estimate is approximately $400.00 an acre. The reconstruction project is projected to start, if decided on, fall 2016 when the crops are out.

President Burton pointed out that this is a public informational meeting for preliminary steps to give the landowners information and to hear the landowner’s feedback today; this is not a public hearing. He advised the landowners that the Drainage Board needs the watershed’s direction supported in a hearing, so they do not waste time.

Surveyor Ward is working with White County Engineer Frauhiger to keep the cost of the reconstruction project at $400.00 an acre with tile size of 36” at the outlet and 12” at the upper north end. The 36” tile size could possibly be a smaller size and cost less per acre.

White County Engineer Frauhiger is working on getting water off the crops (fields) within thirty (30) hours. The engineers will make a computer model with different size outlets showing what the water grade line will be; the velocity is predicted to be 2.2 feet per second. Topo will be run along the strip. He explained the manufacturer warranty for the new tiles.

The landowners asked about an 18” tile; however a larger tile will increase the cost of the project quite a bit. A deeper outlet to get more grade on the tile doesn’t look possible as it has a hard bottom and extensive work would have to be done.

Gordon Denton said thirty (30) hours is better than thirty (30) days.

Bob Hines, landowner, asked about the condition of the present tile and what is anticipated for every one hundred (100) feet. Surveyor Ward answered that he could spot check the tile, but it can’t handle the amount of water going thru it.

Jon Okos asked “why we are getting a new tile when we don’t know what is wrong with the tile now? Economic constraint is the problem and payback is something we need to look at as it (the project) causes a lot of concern. Four hundred dollars ($400.00) an acre is where the problem lies. If we look at something first where it allows us to make it a little better, in the time of AG where we are at, the way this is set up and the payback, that is something I think we really need to look at.” Surveyor Ward replied that they will have it dug up toward the outlet and inspect it.

He asked “if there was any way at a County level to get some help financing some of that as it ties up the working capital as an operation and future growth potential?” Vice President Heimlich responded that a reconstruction project is covered under the state statue. Member Diener explained the county would be financing the project twice in that situation. The county has to finance the project to begin with, then would be borrowing money to lend it back to the landowners.

Robert Stevenson asked “if a contractor was open to an eighteen (18) inch tile?” Surveyor Ward restated that an eighteen (18) inch tile would substantially increase the cost of the project.

Larry Storm asked what if one person doesn’t want it (the reconstruction)? Member Diener commented the White County Drainage Board does the decision making. He explained that the project would be financed twice if contractors were coming and going to the project two or three times to complete it.

Public comments (landowners that did not state their name) had a variety of questions including “can the project be done in a three (3) year stage, so it is not as much money restraint on us all at once?” Engineer Frauhiger said each time a contractor sets up (changes mobilization) there is a charge.

The Surveyor was asked if the maintenance fund could be used toward the reconstruction project. He said seventy-five (75%) of the maintenance fund can be used toward a reconstruction project.

Surveyor Ward explained the statue is written by the State of Indiana; not White County. The landowner has to pay the total amount that you are assessed or ten (10%) on the balance due per state statue; not county statue. This is equal payments over five (5) years; not more than five (5) years.

Attorney Loy advised White County does not have authority to lend money.

President Burton said the next public meeting will be an informational meeting held after the County Engineer has two models ready. This meeting will be outside the White County Drainage Board meeting and before the scheduled official hearing.




Surveyor Ward explained North White is wanting to put an addition on to the north side of the elementary school. He asked for confirmation if the tile under the elementary school was vacated north of the highway when Monon put the storm sewer in along the state road; then when the elementary school was built the tile was routed around the school and tied into town tile that goes out to the east side of town and down. He is providing the available minutes for the board members to review.




Surveyor Ward received a written request from the Benton County Surveyor, David L. Fisher. He is requesting the appointment of two (2) White County Drainage Board members for a Benton-White Curtis Creek Joint Drainage Board. There is a meeting scheduled on Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 9:00 a.m. in the Commissioners’ room, Benton County courthouse, 706 East 5th Street, Fowler, IN.


Steve Burton and John Heimlich committed to the Benton-White Curtis Creek Joint Drainage Board.

There being no further business to come before the board, their meeting was adjourned.





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Steve Burton, President John Heimlich, Vice President David Diener, Member