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BE IT REMEMBERED, that the Crowell-Wells Joint Drainage Board held a meeting on Friday, August 14, 2015. The meeting was held at the White County Building, 2nd floor, Commissioners’ conference room beginning at 9:00 a.m.

Joint Drainage Board members present were: President Steve Burton, White County, Vice President John Brown, Carroll County, Member David Diener, White County, Member Ralph Anderson, Cass County and later Member William Brown. Also, present were the White County Attorney George W. Loy, Ex Officio-Surveyor Bradley E. Ward, White County, Surveyor Donnie Shockley, Carroll County, Secretary Sharon Broussard and the Carroll County First Deputy Amanda Smith.

Others present were:

Superintendent Mike Kyburz – White County Highway Dept.

Donald Potts. 9058 North 625 West, Delphi, IN – landowner

Wayne Hanawalt, Delphi, IN, - landowner

President Burton called the meeting to order.

 

MINUTES

The minutes and agenda were distributed to the Carroll-White Crowell-Wells Joint Drainage Board members present at this time.

  • Member Diener made a motion to approve the minutes as presented for the first meeting held on June 18, 2015; seconded by Vice President Brown. Vote: Favor (4). Member William Brown absent.

 

DISCUSSION

The discussion was continued from June 18, 2015. Ex Officio-Surveyor Ward started the discussion by providing answers to the Joint Drainage Board for their previous questions from the first meeting.

 

 

DATE OF CONSTRUCTION

The original construction of the Crowell-Wells drain was dated 1884. It was reconstructed in 1998. It is a 24 “water way over the top of the side.

 

OPEN DITCH OPTION

The cost will be approximately fifty ($50.00) to sixty ($60.00) an acre for the assessment. The open ditch is approximately 3,100 feet. Ten (10) feet to dredge and level soil; ten dollars ($10.00) per foot; two dollars and fifty cents ($2.50) for seed and provide erosion control.



TILE OPTION

The cost will be approximately one hundred eighty six thousand dollars ($186,000) for the tile. The installation is usually double the price which includes stone and labor. $215 an acre (rough price including 5 inlets quoted and miscellaneous cost for tile connections, rebuilding headwall, engineering review).

 

Deb Boucher, DEBCO, priced $135.00/foot for 12” and $158.00/foot for 18” corrugated metal pipe.





GEORGE WELLS LETTER

Ex Officio-Surveyor Ward distributed a copy of an email he received from George Wells, landowner, to the board:

Date: August 13, 2015 at 8:59PM

Subject: Wells-Crowell ditch

Observations of my end of the ditch:

Almost all normal rainfall is handled by the 24 inch tile, even with a decent rain it is rarely at capacity. Almost all big rains exceed what even a bigger tile could handle-maybe 5 or 6 times a year water comes across the surface 100-150 ft wide, several feet deep-not worth a bigger tile when we have the surface option. I don’t think the pasture, kind of a muck bottom, would hold up well as a open ditch. When it was installed they tiled across the pasture I believe for that reason, and they let it be an open ditch where the soil would hold bank.

Thanks please keep me informed

George Wells

 



Ex Officio-Surveyor Ward said “if an open ditch is finally done, it should handle the water out of the other three (3) watersheds a lot more easily

President Burton asked if the landowner who this goes thru gets reimbursed, because he is losing production ground.

Member Anderson said “I drove the ditch and an open ditch is probably the way to go unless there is any opposition from the people here”

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS

Donald Potts, 9058 North 625 West, Delphi, IN. Mr.& Mrs. Donald Potts own the property (39 acres) just south of Stringtown Road on 1300 East. He said he is “for an open ditch.” He said right now that his place is used for a pond and a waterway; what is in there has made it so much worse. There are nine (9) or ten (10) acres that he can’t get crops off. He commented on the Idaville drainage system.

Wayne Hanawalt, CR 1300, Delphi, IN. He said he is joint owner of a farm with his sister-in-law and niece. The tile cuts across the corner of their farm. Bill Shaffer, their tenant, said the tile is too low and creates backwater.

 

IDAVILLE DRAINAGE SYSTEM

Vice President John Brown asked if we are addressing the drainage coming out of Idaville and if that tile system needs fixed at the same time. Ex Officio-Surveyor Ward said that he has not been approached about the Idaville drainage system, but it probably needs work. It would help it, but not directly. The water from Idaville does come that way, but that is thru a different tile system. Member Diener said that downstream is the first thing that needs addressed.



President Burton said it was time to select the route. The next step is to notify landowners and schedule a public hearing at a later date.

  • Vice President John Brown made a motion to approve the Open Ditch Option; seconded by Member Ralph Anderson. Vote: Favor- four (4) Absent for vote - William Brown

 

 

 

 

 

ROAD CROSSINGS-BOX CULVERTS ESTIMATE

Superintendent Mike Kyburz, White County Highway Dept., (WCHD) presented the estimate for the road crossings/box culverts. He commented the pricing is hard to do without engineering being complete, because everything is priced by the foot. He said he may have over-estimated on the length of pipe or box culvert considering there may be a combination of both types. The WCHD would like to do the installation and widen everything as replaced; or help the contractor doing the rest of the job.

$20,000- for box culvert per crossing.

$10,000- for pipe per crossing.

 

There are three (3) crossing locations. Two (2) crossing locations are chip and seal roads which have more travel; the third crossing location is gravel.

Crossing 1: Stringtown Road (route to school) This crossing is at an angle and Superintendent Kyburz suggest a box culvert as a better choice at this location.

Crossing 2: CR 1300 South to Carroll County. This crossing may need to be widened (berm) as there is a drop off and it is a busy road traveled at a higher speed.

Crossing 3: South County line has slower agriculture type traffic.



Ex Officio-Surveyor Ward said if the watershed pays for the three (3) road crossings it might be fifty dollars ($50.00) to sixty dollars ($60.00) an acre. This is if the road crossings are sized adequately; and this is hard to do without going too far with engineering. He assured President Burton the box culverts are included in the estimate.

Surveyor Ward estimated the road crossing as follows:

Metal corrugated pipe- 36 square feet of opening using 84 inch round metal corrugated pipe would be $135.00 per feet and it would take 180 feet to do project. This option would add about $15.00/acre to the cost of the project.

Squash pipe - 95 x 67 squash pipe would be $158.00 per foot. This option would add about $15.00/acre to the cost of the project.

Aluminum box culvert – 10 foot span by almost a 5 foot rise would be $350.00 per foot. This option would add about $31.00/acre to the cost of the project.











Attorney Loy advised under IC Section 36-9-27-71 that the cost of the work on the crossing shall be paid by the owner of the public highway which is White County.





 

INDIANA CODE 36-9-27-71 DRAINS CROSSING PUBLIC HIGHWAYS AND RAILROAD RIGHTS-OF-WAY

Sec.71. (a) When, in the construction or reconstruction of a regulated drain, the county surveyor determines that the proposed drain will cross a public highway or the right-of-way of a railroad company at a point where:

  1. There is no crossing; or

(2) The crossing will not adequately handle or will be endangered by the flow of water from the drain when completed;

the county surveyor shall include in the plans the grade and cross section requirements for a new crossing, or the requirements for altering, enlarging, repairing, or replacing the crossing. The surveyor shall mail a copy of the requirements addressed to the owner of the highway or right-of-way.

(b) When requested by the owner of the highway or right-of-way, the county surveyor shall meet with the owner at a time and place to be fixed by the surveyor. The surveyor shall hear objections to the requirements, and may then change the requirements as justice may require.

(c) When the board finds that in the construction, reconstruction, or maintenance of a regulated drain it is necessary to:

(1) alter, enlarge, repair, or replace a crossing; or

(2) construct a new crossing where none existed before;







The cost of the work on the crossing shall be paid by the owner of the public highway. This cost may not be considered by the county surveyor or by the board in determining the cost of the work on the drain or in assessing benefits and damages. However, if it is necessary for the owner of a public highway to construct a new crossing because of a cut-off for the purpose of shortening or straightening a regulated rain, the owner of the public highway shall pay one-half (1/2) of the cost of the new crossing, and the remainder shall be included in the cost of the work on the drain.

(d) A railroad company with a right-of-way that is:

(1) crossed by the construction of a regulated drain; or

(2) affected by the altering or enlarging of a crossing;

Shall pay one-half (1/2) of the cost of the work on the crossing and the remainder shall be included in the cost of the work on the drain.

(e) If the county surveyor is registered under IC 25-31, the county surveyor must review and approve or disapprove the plans and hydraulic date for an existing crossing that is to be altered, enlarged, repaired, or replaced, or the construction of a new crossing for a public highway or the right-of-way of a railroad company. The county surveyor shall disapprove the plans and hydraulic data if they do not show that the structure will meet structural and hydraulic requirements that will permit the drain to function properly. However, if the county surveyor is not registered under IC 25-31, a registered person who is selected under section 30 of this chapter shall:

(1) review and approve or disapprove the plans and specifications described in this subsection;

(2) inform the county surveyor in writing of the approval or disapproval; and

(3) submit all plans, specifications, and hydraulic data along with the approval or disapproval.

Approval of the plans and hydraulic data by a person who is registered under IC 25-31 is required before the work may take place.







 

 

 

 

CONCLUSION

Surveyor Ward will have it designed and have another Carroll-White Crowell-Wells Joint Drainage Board meeting before notifying landowners and scheduling a hearing.





The next Carroll-White Crowell-Wells Joint Drainage Board meeting will be held on Friday, November 6, 2015 at the White County Building, 2nd Floor, Commissioners’ conference room beginning at 9:00 a.m.





  • Vice President John Brown made a motion to adjourn; seconded by Member Anderson. Vote: Unanimous







___________________ ___________________­_____ _________________________

Steve Burton, President John Brown, Vice President William Brown, Member

White County Carroll County Carroll County

____________________ __________________________ _________________________

Ralph Anderson, Member David Diener, Member Bradley E. Ward, Ex Officio

Cass County White County White County