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April 4, 2005 Tape #007

The White County Drainage Board convened at 10:30 A.M., EST in the Commissioners’ Room of the White County Building, Monticello, Indiana with Board Members Steven Burton, O. D. Ferguson and John C. Heimlich, Attorney George W. Loy, Surveyor Dennis W. Sterrett and Secretary Romana Kiser in attendance. Also attending were Harold Reiff and Bill Shaffer.

Chairman Burton called the meeting to order. Board Member Ferguson made a motion to approve the minutes of the March 21, 2005 minutes. Board Member Heimlich seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

Surveyor Sterrett reviewed that at the February 22, 2005 meeting the Board approved a resolution from Tippecanoe County to raise the maintenance on the Andrew P. Brown tile drain by 25% and a letter was sent back to Tippecanoe County saying that we concur with the increase. Tippecanoe County had sent a graph showing the maintenance to be currently $1.00 an acre and the increase would raise it to $1.25 an acre. Surveyor Sterrett said that they sent notice back to our Auditor to raise it 25% and our Auditor said she can’t do that, she needs a dollar figure. So come to find out White County is only collecting fifty cents an acre on the Andrew P. Brown Drain. He said, “After a couple of days we figured out that in 1985 Tippecanoe County raised it to $1.00 an acre and somehow White County didn’t get notified. We can’t find anything in our records that they notified us.” Board Member Heimlich said we can’t raise it without a hearing. Attorney Loy said, “Right, or raise it 62.5 cents.” Secretary Kiser said, “THEY have documentation that they held the hearing and raised it to a dollar, but our Auditor for some reason didn’t get the message, whether it was from the Surveyor’s office or their office, we don’t know.” Surveyor Sterrett said, “They had a hearing in Tippecanoe County in 1985, because there were some remonstrators there.” Secretary Kiser said, “We asked for documentation and they sent us minutes of the hearing.” Board Member Heimlich said, “Do they have any documentation of any correspondence with us? It would be one thing if we relinquished….” Secretary Kiser said our Auditor doesn’t want to go back and look that far. Surveyor Sterrett said it doesn’t say anything about White County in their minutes.

Attorney Loy stated, “In my opinion it can’t go more than 25% above the fifty cent assessment.” Surveyor Sterrett said they did kind of a blanket raise on several drains. Attorney Loy asked how many benefited acres are in White County. Surveyor Sterrett answered 401. Attorney Loy said that is not going to make much of a dollar difference. Board Member Heimlich said, “So their minutes, they had a meeting where they raised it but there was no White County representation.” Surveyor Sterrett said, “I don’t think it was a Joint Board, it doesn’t say. It just says Andrew P. Brown Ditch Maintenance at 10:30.” Attorney Loy said, “Apparently what did happen didn’t affect us because, we’re at fifty cents.” Surveyor Sterrett said it doesn’t say what it was prior to a dollar. Board Member Heimlich asked if it says who was there or was it just part of the Tippecanoe County Board. Surveyor Sterrett read, “It says Eastburn was there, Andy Klinkhamer, he lives in White County, Ted Lucas, Lewis McKay, Leon Howey, Mabel Anson, and Florence Anderson attended.” Board Member Heimlich said, “But it doesn’t say who the Board was. It must’ve just been part of their regular Drainage Board meeting.” Surveyor Sterrett read, “Upon recommendation of the engineer Mr. Dale Remaly, with a second from Mr. Bruce Osbourn, they must’ve been commissioners, to establish a maintenance fund as submitted.” Attorney Loy, “To establish a maintenance fund? There wasn’t one, it wasn’t a modification.” Board Member Heimlich said it should’ve been a joint board unless White County relinquished their authority. They didn’t produce anything that indicated that.” (NOTE: AFTER THE MEETING THE SURVEYOR’S OFFICE FOUND IN THE WHITE COUNTY JUNE 7, 1971 MINUTES THAT THE WHITE COUNTY BOARD APPROVED WAIVING THEIR RIGHTS TO A JOINT BOARD ON THE ANDREW P. BROWN DRAIN AND NOTIFIED TIPPECANOE COUNTY. HARD COPY ATTACHED TO THESE MINUTES.)

Chairman Burton asked Attorney Loy, “So your recommendation is that we respond to them that regardless of what they chose we are tied to the……” Attorney Loy answered, “Yes, the current assessment is fifty cents and we couldn’t go beyond the 25% above that without a hearing.” Board Member Heimlich said according to their minutes the maintenance fund was established in 1985 so then you wonder why we charged anything at all before that. Surveyor Sterrett said, “Their secretary e-mailed us and said, ‘I have mailed you the documentation, Drainage Board minutes, showing when it was raised to $1.00 in 1985.” Board Member Heimlich said then she is indicating that there was one established. He said that makes more sense. Attorney Loy said, “Maybe they just always said that in their minutes regardless if it was a modification or….” Chairman Burton asked how long we have been at fifty cents an acre. Secretary Kiser said, “Forever it looks like. It is written in our ledger at fifty cents. It is funny they didn’t catch that we were only paying fifty cents an acre instead of a dollar an acre for that many years.”

Attorney Loy stated, “My recommendation is that we have to follow the law and we can’t go above 62 cents I guess. I will help you draft a letter, if you want, back to them. If there are only 400 acres, we are talking a fifty cent difference, so $200.00 a year plus from us.” Surveyor Sterrett said yes, right now we are collecting $215.00. Attorney Loy said, “You need to put something in the minutes that Surveyor Sterrett gave us a summary of what appears to be the record and you want me to authorize a response back to Tippecanoe County that we can’t raise it over 25% above …..inaudible.”

Board Member Heimlich made the motion that we direct the Surveyor to respond to the Tippecanoe County Drainage Board that by law we can only raise our assessment 25% without a hearing. Board Member Ferguson seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

Surveyor Sterrett reported, “Harold Reiff is here to discuss the ditch that goes through his property, the M.K. Reiff Ditch. He has filed a petition to have maintenance done on it and I haven’t got to it yet, it is in line. We were going to try to do it under maintenance. Right now there is about 8,300 foot of ditch, I measured out this morning on GIS, I think that needs cleaned. There is some brush on it, it needs dipped out. There is currently $3,800.00 in the maintenance fund and it brings in $1,000.00 a year.

Harold Reiff addressed the Board, “One of the reasons we are interested in getting this done, the State Highway is planning on replacing the bridge across the Burnetts Creek, you are talking Burnetts Creek and M.K. Reiff Ditch and I think they are both the same down to a point. They are in the process, done survey work, to replace that bridge. What I want to do and what Bill (Shaffer) and I need to do is get that ditch cleaned out, because it is plugged up where sand has come in from a big tile line that comes in from the northeast and we are getting water backing up in our fields. We talked to the other landowners who are around there, and they would go along if we could use the funds to excavate as much of the ditch as we could up to a point and then we would take it up by private agreement to finish the job. But of course we’ve got to get some figures together to know what the cost is; I don’t want to walk into it with a blank check. That’s what we are interested in, getting the ditch cleaned out, because it HAS filled in. You were out and looked at it; I would say almost two feet or better. (Surveyor said probably) This ditch was cleaned out by private agreement about 25 years ago. I spearheaded the group and we had it done, cleaned out, but there has been no maintenance done on it since that time. What can we do as far as using the funds, and can we use part of the funds from the tile line, which is a separate fund, coming in from the northeast because that is where the sand came from that is blocking up the ditch right now.”

Board Member Heimlich said, “You are talking about a mile and a half. What would your estimate be? Is there much brush on it?” Surveyor Sterrett answered, yes there’s some brush on it. Harold Reiff said, “If necessary, like we did before, the brush has been sprayed so there’s not much left and I think we could, Bill and I could get together with the others and possibly take the brush off. Enough that it would only be the dipping out of the bottom to get it down where we got better drainage. You had trouble, Bill, with a tile coming in from the north blew up and came up in his field because the ditch is high enough you are getting back pressure when it is a full flow from the northeast and causing trouble in his field.” Bill Shaffer said the tile is under water.” Surveyor Sterrett pointed out on a map, “Actually it runs from here through Burnettsville and was cleaned from Highway 24 south to West Street, which is from here to here, before I came on board. I would say we would want to go to the tracks again, so from the tracks to here is a mile and a half. And, right now I have a work order out to Simons, JVS, if you remember last October Burnettsville had in the paper that the drain was silting over their metering station for their treatment plant. They have a metering trough that goes out into the ditch and there has been a bunch of sand wash in there and it is causing problems because their metering valve isn’t functioning right. So, we waited until the water went down and the town called me up and I got a contractor over there. He is going to dig out about 600 feet of it and put a silt trap in front of the metering gauge. So we are going to have a little expense there, I don’t know how much, a thousand bucks or so.”

Bill Shaffer stated, “On that, I don’t know when they started doing that, but in mid-summer, July on, that water crest, I own that farm right south of it, that water crest gets up in that ditch and it automatically will bring that water table up. I go by there every day and that slab of cement out there with the overflow from the septic; I have never seen that up to that rubber tube.” Surveyor Sterrett said, “This is on just a little bit farther north. They have a concrete trough out in the ditch and somehow that thing gauges how much water is in the ditch and then it lets more overflow.” Bill Shaffer stated, “A lot of that sand came from that ditch that goes into Cass County that goes east. They dredged that about two years ago, and of course whenever you dig a new ditch you are going to have silt. Hopefully now the sides have grown some kind of vegetation on it to help hold the silt from coming in. So I don’t know if that is really the problem they think it is. But I do know the water crest will raise that water table about a foot.” Surveyor Sterrett asked, “How much do you think is in that culvert?” Bill Shaffer answered, “Under Division Road? I don’t know. Actually there is plenty of fall in that ditch. Going the other way there is a tremendous amount of fall.” Surveyor Sterrett said the regulated drain ends right there at that site. Bill Shaffer said they have been spraying that from there all the way on down, way on back in there clear on Jane Barnes’. Surveyor Sterrett said not since he has been here. Board Member Ferguson asked if that is all south of Highway 24. The answer was yes.

Harold Reiff stated, “The bridge right east of CFS, it is from there to the railroad track, and on to the culverts going into Burnettsville, what they call old town on the north south road. Then it goes on south from there a half mile to about the end of where the excavating was done, because there is fall beyond that. And, that’s what we are wondering about, is getting that cleared out so we get some drainage up on our ground. It just stays so wet, and in a wet year we have trouble with getting crops in.”

Bill Shaffer said, “Two years ago when they dredged that, they started over there in town I think at the bridge that goes across there by the park. They came up here and they stopped at 24. Well, by not going all the way up it picked up a lot of silt because they got that water flowing there at 24. They should’ve gone all the way through there at the time, they didn’t have money but that’s what they should’ve done.”

Chairman Burton asked how much money is available. Surveyor Sterrett answered, “Well, that’s what I was explaining. There is $3,800.00 in there and it brings in a thousand a year and I am going to spend at least a thousand.” Board Member Heimlich asked, “Just roughly what would you anticipate that would cost for a mile and a half?” Surveyor Sterrett stated, “I would have to get a couple of contractors to go out there and get an estimate. I don’t know, a dollar a foot? So we are talking 8,300 feet if we go clear to the end of it.” Board Member Heimlich said, “So $8,000.00 or $10,000.00 maybe.”

Surveyor Sterrett said, “I think what Mr. Reiff wants to do, whatever the maintenance doesn’t pay they would take care of.” Board Member Heimlich said, “It looks like there would be maybe $3,000.00 available in the maintenance this year. What is the assessed acres?” Surveyor Sterrett answered 1,634 benefited acres, there are 59 parcels. Chairman Burton said, “I assume you must’ve had that done about five years ago on that short stretch.” Surveyor Sterrett said that Allen Howe did it in 2001 for $2,600.00 with maintenance money.

Harold Reiff said, “I think part of that was they had to take quite a bit of brush, they had to clean the brush off to get to it. What we are hoping to do is, if we can do the brush cleaning ourselves rather than have to pay for somebody to do it. That’s what we did before when we cleaned that out, we all got together and we had 3 or 4 crews in there and we just went down through there and took the trees out. We took out as much as we could so they didn’t have to do any more when they were doing the dipping out. You looked on up the headlands didn’t you?” Surveyor Sterrett said he did not get that far.

Mr. Reiff said, “We were also wondering if part of the funds from the tile line that comes in from the northeast, because that’s where the sand came from, could those funds be used for maintenance right off of the end where that tile empties in, where it is under water right now.” Board Member Heimlich said, “That part I don’t think we can do. I assume those people are paying maintenance on the ditch as well. (Surveyor Sterrett stated the tile is on separate maintenance.) They would also have to be paying maintenance on the ditch. But as far as what is in the ditch maintenance fund, yes, we could use that toward the project. And it could be done as friendly cleanout, but just so you understand, I don’t know all the individuals involved, if you do it that way there is no way that we can force anybody to pay. You understand that.” Harold Reiff said, “That’s what I ran into before. I talked to people, everybody was agreeable on it. Of course we also got into… at that time it involved all the lots in Burnettsville. We just forgot about them. We worked mainly with the larger acreages. It worked out very well. We included that time everybody that was covered under the tile line that went to the northeast. Because we got funds from folks who paid who lived in Cass County. But that was by private agreement. That’s what we’re wondering, if we don’t do the end of the tile line coming down, we’ll run into more problems with that tile. So to me that is part of the possibility of the funds of that tile line for maintenance because that is where the sand came from. You saw in there, didn’t you, where it is?” Surveyor said yes, there is silt on up above that, too.

Board Member Heimlich said, “Those people are already paying maintenance on the ditch as well because that is their outlet. They pay on the tile and on the ditch. So they would argue that their money is in that $3,800 that is available in maintenance fund now.” Mr. Shaffer asked how much the ditch accumulates a year. Surveyor Sterrett answered a thousand dollars. He did not have that information on the tile branch. Board Member Heimlich asked Attorney Loy if he was thinking right on that, that we couldn’t use the money from the tile maintenance fund because they are being assessed on the ditch. Attorney Loy said that was right.

Board Member Heimlich repeated, “We can do that as a friendly cleanout, but just so it is understood we would have no authority to make anybody pay, that would be up to you.” Harold Reiff said, “We were talking to the ones around there that are directly affected by it and Bill and I are in agreement, if it isn’t completely unreasonable we could pick that up because eventually it is going to come out of taxes anyway so if we do it by friendly agreement then we don’t have to wait until it accumulates enough funds and it is not going to get any better.” Board Member Heimlich said, “It looks like, just the figures that Denny had, say it was a $1.00 a foot and it was around $8,000.00 or more and you took $3,000.00 or more out of maintenance, you are looking at about $5,000.00 and on that amount of acreage it would be a little over $3.00 an acre. That’s assuming that everybody paid. There would be about $5,000.00 to split up.” Surveyor Sterrett said, “That is just a guess. I don’t know how much silt there is in it, haven’t got a good look at it yet. The only way to do it is to go get a couple of contractors and take them out there and get something together.”

Chairman Burton said, “What is being proposed here, the time line is a lot faster than the petitioning. The life cycle of that is how long?” Surveyor Sterrett said it is twelfth on the list. Harold Reiff said, “In other words, if you are talking four or five years, those of us who are affected by the wet ground are going to be hurting. The big rain we had a year ago in July, Bill knows because he was out there combining our corn, there was a big area in there where there was just nothing. Now, whether that would get the water away fast enough……and then in the spring it stays wet because the water table is so high that the water can’t get away from underneath. It is muck-type ground so it tends to stay soft.”

Attorney Loy stated, “The Board would also have to go through the bidding process to take the lowest bid instead of just calling people up.” Harold Reiff asked how long that bidding process would take after all the figures were gotten together. Board Member Heimlich said, “Now that would be if WE did it.” Attorney Loy said, “The Board would have to do that. If it went through the process that you were talking about, you know, twelfth in line and have a hearing and all that.” Chairman Burton said, “That is the petition. But if we just use the $3,800.00 in maintenance and they cover the rest of the cost, would we have to bid that?” Attorney Loy said, “Yes, well, what they do, as long as it is with our permission, they pay for it themselves.” Board Member Heimlich said, “The plans for that would still have to be approved through the Surveyor’s office.” Surveyor Sterrett asked, “They would get the contractor?” Board Member Heimlich said, “Yes, if it was going to be a friendly cleanout.” Bill Shaffer asked, “Are we able to get those funds if we get the contractor?” Attorney Loy stated that the Board would bid that part that used the maintenance funds. Surveyor Sterrett said, “We could do it up to the $3,000.00 point, like we could start at the railroad and bring it up to the culvert. Then they could take it from there.” Board Member Heimlich said we have done things similar to this. Like in some cases we have used the maintenance money to do the brushing and then bid the other separate. But they were going to do the brushing themselves.”

Harold Reiff asked, “What is the timetable to be able to use the $3,000.00 or what is the procedure for that, and then say you get someone to do that, clean the ditch out that far then we would try to talk to him to take it on up the rest of the way and we’d want to know what the total figure is.” Surveyor Sterrett said he thought we could do something like that. Board Member Heimlich said, “I would think we could use the $3,000.00 without going through the………” Surveyor Sterrett said, “They did $2,600.00 before from West Street up to Hwy. 24 so we could go on up to where we thought the $3,000.00 would take it and if they wanted to get the contractor to go ahead, that’s what you’re talking about.” Harold Reiff said, “Yes, I checked on that, up to Hwy. 24 that we cleaned out. Went down under the bridge on 24 and there is about an eighteen inch waterfall where the water came down and dropped off. They reached under as far as they could but had not gone beyond it and that was how much was taken out, coming up that far. Well eighteen inches makes a big difference when you got water table in there that loops. I do know where it crosses County Road 100 North we were doing some digging in there and there’s gravel in there down about ten feet and it was full of water. We were doing some cleaning up there on the sand ridge. We dug a hole to bury some stuff, got down there and there’s water and it would’ve been just about the level of the top of the ditch at the present time.” Bill Shaffer said that water table at Burnettsville is about fourteen feet so that ditch down there is pretty close to the water table anyhow. He said they have wells there only fourteen or fifteen feet. Harold Reiff said, “There is a good flow of water going through there now that we’ve had the rain, there’s been some self-cleaning on that this Spring because of the water, but we want to get back where it affects the field so we can get in and do field work. So our question now is how can we proceed, that’s what we want to know.”

Bill Shaffer asked, “Do you think that needs to go to the railroad?” (conversation about railroad area, partially inaudible, see tape.) Board Member Heimlich asked if they had a contractor in mind. Harold Reiff said no, they have been working with the surveyor because they didn’t know what they could or couldn’t do. He said, “I want to be sure, do we have to run a survey on it to determine the cubic yards they have to move? The time before we worked with the surveyor to get established on it, then we got some bids.”

Attorney Loy stated, “What you have in mind is, you have about $3,000.00 plus in maintenance and you would like to use that for them to hire a contractor to do as much as they can on that and then let them do the rest themselves.” Board Member Heimlich said, “Either that or, what I’m saying is, if they don’t have a contractor in mind, so we just put it out for bid or quote and whoever the low bid was they would hire.” Attorney Loy said if it is under $25,000.00 you use the quote process. Board Member Heimlich said, “At least from the standpoint of using the money that we are responsible for at least it was a competitive process, we didn’t just give the money to somebody. So would there be a problem doing it that way?” Attorney Loy said, “No, invite quotes for part of the ditch. At least three. Opened here. Mailed at least 7 days prior to a meeting.” Surveyor Sterrett said, “So all I’d have to do is write up some sort of short specs saying I want to go upstream three thousand dollars worth.” Board Member Heimlich said, “Do they want to have the understanding that they are going to do more than that?” Harold Reiff asked, “Would it be possible, if you are asking for a bid, three thousand dollars would come up so far and then there’s another part of the bid that might not go through you, that would be to finish the job. In other words, it is all locked in together.” Board Member Heimlich said, “From your standpoint, that would make the most sense.” Harold Reiff said that way one worker would do the whole thing.” Attorney Loy said, “You can solicit quotes on a per foot basis.” Board Member Heimlich said, “I think you can do it, kind of explain what’s happening here. We have to be covered for the amount of money in maintenance used and you want the competitive process too, because you want to do it as cheap as you can.”

Board Member Ferguson asked if they would start at Highway 24. Surveyor Sterrett said he would have to look at it closer. Chairman Burton asked if they were satisfied with Surveyor Sterrett working something up. Surveyor Sterrett said he will have to get some specs together. Harold Reiff said so they know where they are as far as cost.

Surveyor Sterrett said at the last meeting there were landowners present that thought we should raise the maintenance rate on the Hinshaw-Burch Drain that we just spent $2,346.00 on because roots got in the solid tile behind Bruce Vogel’s. It goes through Bentlage to the south. Surveyor Sterrett said, “The drain maintenance only brings in $501.00 per year, so the most that could be in the fund is $2,000.00 which we just wiped out in October. It is now in debt $400.00, approximately in debt a year. They were in favor of five dollars an acre for maintenance assessment. The Hinshaw-Burch farm manager was in favor of that, too.” Board Member Heimlich asked how many landowners there are. Surveyor Sterrett answered ten parcels – Bentlage, Gwin has fourteen acres, John Hinshaw has 80 plus another 52, Jerry Lindquist has 8, Jack Pherson has an acre and a half, his mom has 7, plus 59, Bruce Vogel has fourteen, Maurine Wilson has 8.

Chairman Burton said there’s roughly a thousand acres. Surveyor Sterrett said there’s ten landowners and it is currently $2.00 an acre. Board Member Heimlich said, “They (landowners) were anticipating more work.” Surveyor Sterrett answered, “Yes, I need to talk to Bentlage about getting the trees off of the tile. It goes through half a mile of woods and is solid tile put in about 35 years ago that gets roots in it and was flooding Vogel out. We replaced 60 foot of that tile.” Chairman Burton asked if cleaning the brush off of the top of it would it come out of maintenance? Surveyor Sterrett said if Bentlage doesn’t get them off of there. Attorney Loy asked if he planted them. Surveyor Sterrett said no. Attorney Loy said to get a hold of him and give him a chance to get the trees off himself.

Board Member Heimlich made a motion to set the maintenance rate on the Hinshaw-Burch Drain at $5.00 an acre and $10.00 minimum. Board Member Ferguson seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

Surveyor Sterrett stated, “We have a plan submitted for Poncie’s. They are going to try to build on a three acre site down by the water tower on Gordon Road and Sixth Street. They have submitted a plan for review and I called Engineer Frauhiger this morning and we haven’t decided on the fee, $2,000.00 or $250.00. Todd thought we could do it for $250.00 and he is coming up to look at it. It is a three acre, one lot site. Impervious area is going to be .35 acre, so that is 1/3 of an acre, 14,000 square feet or so.” Board Member Heimlich agreed if Todd thought $250.00 was enough.

Surveyor Sterrett said, “Also Idaville Treatment Plant has a plan. What kind of review fee do you think we ought to charge for them, if any? I’d like to have Todd look at it because it is right along our ditch. They are putting a treatment plant out here east of town for the lakes. It is going on the Dittman-Lods Drain right here north of the railroad tracks.” The Board discussed what might have been done on their other plants. Board Member Heimlich said we definitely need to review it, we definitely need a plan. Surveyor Sterrett said there is a chance of flooding there, too, because there is a pipe under the railroad there that is probably not adequately sized. Surveyor Sterrett stated, “The two sites where they had their lift stations, we reviewed them and passed them. We have to pay CTE somehow. They have already come to my office and wanted to know if they are on the right track, because there was some question that if they put in detention and have a ten year storm their detention is going to be full of water because of the ditch. So I sent Todd their preliminary plan and he reviewed it while he was in Florida. I called him this morning and he said he did have some questions about it.” Attorney Loy said he thought in the past we had waived fees for government entities. Board Member Heimlich said he is sure that the Drainage Ordinance was in effect when the first one on the Snow Ditch was put in so there should be precedence there. Chairman Burton asked what the timeline was. Surveyor Sterrett said GRW the engineering firm has asked if they are heading in the right direction. He said if they are not heading in the right direction and need more detention they are going to have to have more ground so that’s what they are wanting to know right now before the go any farther. Surveyor Sterrett said, “I have already submitted the plan. Attorney Loy said he needs to see the plan, no matter what. Secretary Kiser suggested that we have $10,000.00 in Contractual Engineering that we can use out of. Board Member Heimlich said that is for cases like this where we didn’t have any drain to take the funds out of. It was decided to look back in records to see what we have done.

Surveyor Sterrett reported that there is a meeting tomorrow at 10:00 where SR 119 crosses. Board Member Heimlich said they have a meeting at 4:00 in Logansport. Surveyor Sterrett said they got 3 letters, one for Indian Creek Grassy Creek and Little Indian Creek. Board Member Heimlich asked what they are looking for. Surveyor Sterrett said whether we can clean the brush off of more than one side, whether there’s any wetlands, it is called a 368 review. He said it is just to put it on maintenance but he had a plan in there to clear the brush. The Hearing is Thursday t 5:00 at Pioneer High School.

Chairman Burton adjourned the meeting.