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MAY 16, 2005 TAPE #010

The White County Drainage Board convened at 10:30 A.M., EST in the Commissioners’ Room of the White County Building, Monticello, Indiana with Board Members Steven Burton, O. D. Ferguson and John C. Heimlich, Attorney George W. Loy, Surveyor Dennis W. Sterrett, Engineer L. Todd Frauhiger and Secretary Romana Kiser in attendance.

Also attending were Charles Mellon and Dan Hanenkratt.

Chairman Burton called the meeting to order. Chairman Burton asked for approval of the May 2, 2005 minutes. Board Member Ferguson so moved. Board Member Heimlich seconded. The minutes were approved unanimously.

Surveyor Sterrett presented drainage plans for Dan Hanenkratt for Hanenkratt Grain to construct grain bins and scales at the Idaville site. Surveyor Sterrett explained he and Engineer Frauhiger had looked at the site.

Board Member Ferguson asked if they had torn down the old church. Dan Hanenkratt explained they had torn it down but left the Sunday School classroom part and are going to remodel it for an office.

Engineer Frauhiger explained, “There have been a couple of changes from what was submitted, but what we are going to present for approval today, we have a message into Surveyor Jim Milligan to actually get the official drawings changed, but we reviewed the calculations and the calculations are fine. They had come up with the correct amount of detention requirement for the site. As we talked to Dan and Brad, this particular layout was going to be a problem because the trucks were going to come in and use this area and make a loop and come back up to the scale. The pond would’ve cut them off from doing that. Brad had asked us to come up and meet with him. We have met with Brad a couple of times over there to see if there was a way that we could relay out this pond so the semis could make a correct turn to get back over to the scale. So what we came up with last Friday there with Brad, we are going to reshape this pond and put it over on this edge of the property. This is the property line and we will start right here at the corner. They go down two foot, at three to one, so they will come in six foot all the way around it. It is a dry bottom pond so there will be a grassed area with two foot depression. The existing County W. Timmons Tile goes through the location like this, Brad’s thinking it actually might be over here under the corner of the concrete, but regardless we’ll come out of this pond with an eight inch tile and dig over and find the existing W. Timmons Tile and we’ll tie in. This gives the exact same amount of volume as this particular layout did. So I told Jim on the phone we haven’t changed his calculations at all. The only thing we have done is reshape the pond and put it in a different spot on the property so the truck traffic can get back to the scale. At this particular point, the calculations have been reviewed and I think that you (Surveyor) had a chance to talk to Brad and we think that will work. So I think we are ready to present it for approval, based upon that pond layout. We will phone this in to Jim to re-do this drawing. We can even give him that one Denny did as an example and he will get this drawing re-done and we will get our report changed for us. That is the one we are going to present for approval.”

Engineer Frauhiger added, “When we find the W. Timmons Tile and dig it up to tie in, we’ll have to be real careful and make sure we get that fill compacted back over that tile because I’m sure it is a clay tile and if we have semi truck traffic driving over it and don’t get it compacted right we’ll bust that tile out.” Dan Hanenkratt said, “If we do it down on the south end we’ll probably pretty well be away from that, but that would be a good idea.”

Surveyor Sterrett asked, “Does the Board think our right-of-way would be a problem?” Board Member Heimlich asked what is going to be built. Dan Hanenkratt said that is just basically going to be a parking lot. He asked what the concrete on the drawing was. Dan Hanenkratt said it is a basketball court. Engineer Frauhiger said, “The only thing that is going to happen is the stone is going to be put in place around the basketball court and the detention pond built over here.” Board Member Heimlich said he doesn’t think there would be any reason for a Consent to Encroach. You could still dig it up. Engineer Frauhiger stated they are not taking the basketball court down. Board Member Heimlich said there would be enough room on the other side to work on the tile.

Board Member Heimlich made a motion to approve the drainage plan and detention area for the Hanenkratt Grain Bin project at Idaville. Board Member Ferguson seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.

Surveyor Sterrett reported that he had the brush removed from the Lewis-Thrasher Tile and got it opened up. He said they had De-Sabitini from Winamac come over with his jet and jet it out and cut the roots through it. They got it working. That is north of Seafield on Hendress property that Ned Fulkerson farms. That project is done.

Surveyor Sterrett reported on Mike Schroeder’s request for an airwell on the County Farm. Surveyor Sterrett stated, “I don’t know if Howe got out there or not to put an airwell in, but we did visit the site. Mike Schroeder seems to think there is a tile going through the low ground and he wanted to put an airwell in.” Board Member Heimlich said it would be paid by the Commissioners’ since it is County property.

Chairman Burton reported that he was given a message that out at the Sheriff’s Department there is a drain sinking at the northwest far west corner of their lot. Surveyor Sterrett stated that there is no regulated drain that goes through there. Charlie Mellon stated there is a tile right across from the northwest corner of the jail in Tribbett’s field that comes under the road, there’s a culvert there. Surveyor Sterrett said it is not a County drain. Board Member Heimlich said the Altman Drain stops at Tribbett’s property.

Engineer Frauhiger reported, “Main Street is going to go to construction this fall and the first portion of it will be the replacement of the bridge over Ghost Hollow. We have a meeting on Wednesday with the utility companies and the utility companies are going to start relocating in July. Part of their relocation has involved putting new crossings across Ghost Hollow. I think it (James Carter Ditch) is regulated just to the west side of the bridge and then from the east side of the bridge downstream is not regulated. But, they are putting the utility crossings in on the west side so at some point I would assume the utility companies will be approaching us for permission. There is a City water line, City sanitary sewer line, a gas line, there’s overhead electric and it is all on the west side. I think most of it is suspended across the ditch. There’s a gas line that is suspended across the ditch and there’s a sanitary force main suspended across the ditch. I think the gas company is planning to bury it through there instead of having it exposed.” Board Member Ferguson asked, “What will they do, just put a big tube in there for the bridge?” Engineer Frauhiger stated, “Yes, I think if I remember correctly it is a seventy-two inch, six foot. Then on the downstream side of the bridge there is a real interesting structure. From the end of the pipe it drops twenty-four foot if I remember correctly so there is a large concrete structure with a pipe to dump the water down….inaudible….before it lets it go on downstream. I know there are some erosion concerns existing downstream where the existing bridge is. This big drop structure in there should alleviate a lot of this erosion.”

Surveyor Sterrett asked if they are going to need permission from the Drainage Board? Engineer Frauhiger said, “The County already knows about the pipe. I think there will be a deal worked out for the County to help participate in the replacement of the bridge. The structure is downstream of where it is regulated but I can easily bring all of that information up and show you what they are doing. It is basically a large concrete structure with some rip rap and concrete baffles in the bottom of it so the water falls down in and has to work its way through the baffles before it goes on downstream. “He explained that the way it is now is like a big water slide and it has even washed out trees.

Chairman Burton adjourned the meeting.