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September 8, 2009

The White County Drainage Board convened at 10:30 A. M. in the Commissioners’ Room of the White County Building, Monticello, Indiana. Board members present were: President Ronald Schmierer, Vice President Steve Burton, and Drainage Board Member John Heimlich. Also present were Drainage Board Attorney George W. Loy, Surveyor Dennis Sterrett and Drainage Assistant Mary Sterrett.

Also in attendance were Kenneth Burns, Sharon Watson and Charlie Mellon.

The first item on the agenda was to approve the minutes from the August 17, 2009 meeting. Board Member Burton so moved. Board Member Heimlich seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.

The next item on the agenda was the Wolcott Fire Department requesting a Consent to Encroach on the John Unroe Drain.


Surveyor Sterrett explained, “The fire department is wanting to add on to the existing fire department which is fairly new, isn’t it?”


Mr. Burns replied, “It’s actually the municipal building right now, but yes, it was built in 2004. The town built it for the Street Department.”


Surveyor Sterrett stated, “The Unroe Open is right there…and the Unroe tile. Here is the addition they want to put on.”


Chairman Schmierer asked, “Is it going to face US 24?”


Mr. Burns stated, “Yes, the long part will face US 24, it’s 56 by 34. On the old building three trucks will exit onto US 24 and four will come out the south side.”


Surveyor Sterrett stated, “This is the open ditch down here and there is a big culvert underneath their driveway and…so for what drains in the tile, I assume the encroachment would be from the middle of the tile or the 75 foot right of way and from the open ditch it would be from the top of the bank.”


“There’s nothing really changing that much,” Chairman Schmierer stated.


Surveyor Sterrett stated, “I don’t really see any problem with it.”


Chairman Schmierer asked, “If we want to work on it we work on it from the street anyway, don’t we?”


Surveyor Sterrett replied, “When we dipped that ditch four years ago we dipped that from the street and had it hauled off.”


Chairman Schmierer asked, “Does anyone else have any questions about it?”


Board Member Burton stated, “I’m ok with it. The building they remove is…”


Mr. Burns stated, “That other building is actually twenty feet closer than we would be. I wasn’t aware of this right of way. We thought we’d be ok because we’d be farther away than the building that we tore down.”


Chairman Schmierer asked, “What do you need, Attorney Loy?”


Attorney Loy replied, “Since it is a municipality and it’s not going to be sold or transferred…I would just get it in the minutes.”


Board Member Heimlich moved to grant the Consent to Encroach on the John Unroe Drain. Board Member Burton seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.


The next item on the agenda is Meadow Lake Wind Farm Substation II.


Chairman Schmierer asked, “How far is it from the first one?”


Board Member Burton replied, “Three and a half miles.”


Surveyor Sterrett explained, “Alvin was here this morning and he had submitted a plan a week ago and it was revised this morning. It looks like it’s going to be on two or three of Yerk’s property and I believe their access is going to be on the north end.”


Board Member Burton stated “It would be east of Fluidrive. It looks like detention is pretty good size.”


Surveyor Sterrett explained, “Actually there is a swale going around the whole property and empties into a detention pond. They did have two 15” pipes coming into the pond and going overland. Now they have changed that to two 12” pipes with a spillway. They lengthened the spillway by about 25 feet. Todd (Engineer Frauhiger) has looked at it.”


Board Member Burton stated, “This one isn’t going to be as big as the first one. This will be in Round Grove Township. This should be west of 700.”


Surveyor Sterrett stated, “I emailed the plans to Todd that we got this morning. There was a little concern with the bottom of the pond is 730 elevation wise…and the outlet to the tile is 731.75 so potential there will be 1.75 feet of water in the pond. We thought that would cause cattails to grow so we recommended that they either set the bottom of the pond at 731.75 or dig it a couple feet deeper to keep the cattails out of there.”


Chairman Schmierer stated, “Did they change that?”


Surveyor Sterrett stated, “Alvin was going to tell them that they need to change that. And it was our understanding that Alvin was going to get a letter from the northern property owner for consent to allow the surface water to go off onto them. Other than that he said he (Engineer Frauhiger) approves the plan.”


Board Member Heimlich, “And that is the plan with the revisions.”


Surveyor Sterrett replied, “Yes.”


Board Member Burton made a motion to approve the drainage plan for Meadow Lake Wind Farm Substation II contingent on the letter from the landowner. Board Member Heimlich seconded the motion. Motion carried.


The next item on the agenda is an update on ditch spraying.


Chairman Schmierer asked, “Did that other company come in and finish up too?”


Surveyor Sterrett explained, “Yes, and I was going to give him a call. We looked at all the ditches which took us about 2 weeks. When we pulled up to a Shideler ditch it was brown, when we pulled up to a Townsend ditch the brush was dead but the side slopes were not brown. Apparently Shideler had some 2-4D or something in their…


Mr. Burns stated, “They got water from me and never paid me for it. They got 6,500 gallons of water and never came back and paid for it. I got their phone number and I’m going to call them.”


Surveyor Sterrett asked, “How much is that?”


Mr. Burns replied, “About $80.00.”


Attorney Loy asked, “Is this the outfit that is redoing his work?”


Surveyor Sterrett, “No, I’m just showing both contractors and the results from spraying.”


Attorney Loy asked, ‘So, who is doing a better job?”


Surveyor Sterrett replied, “Townsend was killing the brush, but the slopes and the banks were not brown like Shideler’s were. I don’t know whether that…I was going to call and ask them about it.”


Board Member Burton stated, “What I like about Shideler’s is….we still have a lot of grass in the waterway especially at a low level (on Townsend). I prefer the other one to this…we’re keeping stuff out of the waterway which eventually grows up and restricts the flow.”


Attorney Loy asked, “If Townsend was doing the same job Shideler is, that waterway would be open like Shideler’s?”


Surveyor Sterrett replied, “That a little different waterway. This one always has water in it, this other one doesn’t. I thought Shideler did a good job.”


Surveyor Sterrett reported that he had received the letter from the landowner on the Meadow Lake Wind Farm Laydown Yard II for the drainage so the drainage permit could be issued.


Surveyor Sterrett reported that they have been witnessing section corners for the past couple of weeks. Fischer and Associates are resetting the section corners after the wind farm has the roads resurfaced. Surveyor Sterrett explained, “I chose railroad spikes because there are still stones down there and if they set rebar they could hit the stone and the rebar would be sticking up.”


Chairman Schmierer asked if there was anything further for the Drainage Board. Chairman Schmierer then adjourned the meeting.