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The White County Area Plan Commission met Monday, May 9, 2005, at 7:30 p.m. in the Commissioners’ Meeting Room, Second Floor, County Building, Monticello, Indiana.

Members attending were: Jay Clawson, Gary Barbour, David Rosenbarger, Charles Anderson, David Scott, Charles Mellon, Don Ward, Gregory Bossaer, and Dennis Sterrett. Also attending were Attorney Altman and Director Weaver.

Visitors Attending were: Curt Blount, Sherri Blount, Bill Pyle, Myron Barnes, Floyd L. England, Michael Triplett, Don Pauken, Terri Raines, John Raines, Abby Lietz, and David Uttermohlen. Also attending but not signed in was Ken Kelly and Rose Kelly.

The meeting was called to order by President Charles Anderson and roll call was taken. Jay Clawson made a motion to dispense with reading and approve the minutes of the April 11, 2005 meeting. Motion was seconded by Don Ward and carried unanimously.

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#880 Michael E. & Bonita M. Triplett; The property is located on .39 of an acre, South of Lowe’s Bridge at 4866 N. Boxman Place.

Violation: None.

Request: They are requesting to rezone from L-1 to B-2.

President Charles Anderson asked, do we have anyone here representing this request?

 

Mike Triplett stated, I’m Mike Triplett 4866 N. Boxman’s Place.

 

President Charles Anderson asked, do any of the Commissioners have any questions for Mr. Triplett?

 

Jay Clawson stated, one of the biggest things that we find on this is as far as meeting our requirements is coming in and your way out. You do have a fairly decent access easement I guess. But for us to zone this B-2 to have it blanket, we do certain things called commitments quite often. That is a rezoning that is conditional to a certain usage to say that for us to put this as a B-2 and let anything that fits into the B-2 classification would not be a good thing to be able to like say, run a restaurant out of that location because you don’t have with a close proximity of all of the neighbors. The small drive or maybe for a Bed & Breakfast to do a commitment to

rezone and the only use for that would be a Bed & Breakfast and if you close it down the rezoning would revert back to L-1. Is that what it is Diann?

 

Attorney Altman stated, yes.

 

Jay Clawson stated, as far as to zone a straight B-2, it just can’t really fly. It doesn’t really meet any of our regulations on zoning. The rest of the board can speak in, but that is how I see it.

 

Attorney Altman stated, it is certainly something that can be put in a commitment and if they wish to do so or required to do so. In other words, you can make a motion effectively that would be conditional usage for a Bed & Breakfast, certain size, and 2 vehicle personal. You can make a motion as the board and proceed that way.

 

President Charles Anderson stated, it could stay even if they sold it, you can make a commitment where it could stay a Bed & Breakfast.

 

Attorney Altman stated, you can do it both ways is what I’m saying.

 

President Charles Anderson asked, do any of the other Commissioners have any questions? Anyone in the audience have any questions?

 

Don Ward asked, do you have plenty of parking area?

 

Mike Triplett stated, yes we do and we also have a 4 car garage since we are going to put 4 bedrooms there we are going to use the 4 car garage for that, but there is also a large adequate area for other parking.

 

President Charles Anderson asked, but that is your intended use though?

 

Mike Triplett stated, yes, a Bed & Breakfast lodge type thing.

 

President Charles Anderson asked, would you want to go for a commitment to use it as a Bed & Breakfast?

 

Mike Triplett stated, absolutely, we don’t have any other plans to use it for there so we would definitely go with a commitment.

 

Don Ward asked, you have an easement to get you off of Boxman’s Place?

 

Mike Triplett stated, Boxman’s Place yes.

 

Don Ward stated, you really don’t have enough room in front of the building or garage. You do have an easement for a driveway there.

 

Mike Triplett stated, yes sir.

 

Director Weaver stated, the easement doesn’t come in directly off of Boxman’s Place, does it?

 

Mike Triplett stated, no it doesn’t.

 

Director Weaver stated, it comes in off of another piece of property.

 

Mike Triplett stated, it comes in off of an easement to get to the easement. Not where the school bus turns around.

 

Director Weaver stated, if you, if the board looks, I have provided two surveys. One shows the garage and one doesn’t that is why you have two of them.

 

Attorney Altman stated, what I hear is the applicant has modify the request to have a condition that it would only be used for a Bed & Breakfast and at this rezoning.

 

Don Ward asked, do you have that easement into the other easement on your deed?

 

Mike Triplett stated, I don’t know, I can not answer that honestly. I could check into it.

 

Don Ward stated, well I think we need to have proof of that easement to go along with this. I’m not doubting your word for our own records to show that there is an easement to that easement.

 

President Charles Anderson stated, which that can be a condition on this to.

 

Attorney Altman stated, the deed here just shows 3.9 acres and subject to the easements and restrictions, but it doesn’t indicate that it is benefit of the easement that you are talking about. I suspect that the abstract if he has an abstract would show that.

 

Dennis Sterrett asked, your easement goes on to another lot?

 

Mike Triplett stated, another easement.

 

Dennis Sterrett stated, another easement and then goes to…

 

Mike Triplett stated, yes to the best of my knowledge, I don’t know if it is all one total easement or an easement into an easement.

 

President Charles Anderson asked, do the Commissioners have any other questions?

 

Attorney Altman asked, is this on the sewer system?

 

Mike Triplett stated, the grinder pumps are set, but it is not connected yet.

 

Attorney Altman stated, so you would be connected how quickly or do you know.

 

Mike Triplett stated, I don’t know, I have heard this fall. We wouldn’t have construction done until next Spring at the earliest.

 

Attorney Altman stated, so there would be no trouble about making this restricted that the full use be on the sewer system.

 

Mike Triplett stated, correct.

 

Dennis Sterrett asked, are you taking the boathouse out?

 

Mike Triplett stated, no, the boathouse is a concrete boathouse. We are actually using the top of the Boathouse as a recreational area or a rec room.

 

Dennis Sterrett stated, it looks like it is out on SFLECC property.

 

Mike Triplett stated, yes sir.

 

Director Weaver stated, he has filed for a variance. To do the addition to connect the boathouse that is next week on the 19th.

 

Mike Triplett stated, I have meet with SFLECC.

 

President Charles Anderson stated, okay. Is there anything else?

 

Attorney Altman stated, the only thing I would say there is part of proposed improvement is on someone else’ property. Do we have a granted easement to do that.

 

Director Weaver asked, where are you referring to?

 

Attorney Altman stated, oh where it says the 14.

 

Director Weaver stated, that is on SFLECC property and he has been in contact with them. I don’t have anything as of yet. You are going in front of their board, have you done that yet.

 

Mike Triplett stated, 3:00 p.m. this afternoon.

 

Director Weaver stated, okay what was the outcome of that.

 

Mike Triplett stated they took it into consideration and they will let me know. If that doesn’t go through we would have to change our plans to not be on their property. It is actually 12’ wide and 18’ long that is on SFLECC property. That is the only consideration.

 

Attorney Altman stated, we sure can’t rezone anything without the owner’s consent.

 

Mike Triplett stated, yes sir.

 

Attorney Altman stated, you would have to have that.

 

President Charles Anderson stated, if it comes through the way you have it proposed.

 

Mike Triplett stated, right.

 

Attorney Altman stated, and the variance.

 

Gary Barbour asked, that also includes the top of the boathouse doesn’t it?

 

Don Ward stated, that maybe there already.

 

Attorney Altman stated, that may be grandfathered I think you are hitting on the right nail on the head.

 

Gary Barbour stated, well he just needs to understand that he is not doing something and ends up coming back later.

 

President Charles Anderson stated, there have got to be conditions that the easement to the easement is verified and be on the full use of the sewer system, and restricted to a Bed & Breakfast and subject to SFLECC granting use, and the variance. Is there anything else?

 

Attorney Altman stated, that would be the minimum that it could be.

 

President Charles Anderson asked, does anyone in the audience have anything?

 

Without further discussion the board voted.

 

The results of the vote were as follows: 9 affirmative and 0 negative. This will be presented to County Commissioners for their action. This is passed with the above listed conditions.

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#881 Curtis L. & Sherri L. Blount; The property is located on Lot 20 in Leisure Acres Estates, North of County Road 225 North off of County Road 400 East on the South side of Hiawatha Drive.

Violation: None.

Request: They are requesting to rezone from A-1 to R-2.

President Charles Anderson asked, is there anyone here

Curt Blount stated, I’m Curt Blount and as you know I’m requesting a rezoning from A-1 to R-2 Lot 20 in Leisure Acres Estates. If anyone has any questions for me I will help you with what I can.

President Charles Anderson asked, do any of the Commissioners have any questions on this? You want to build on it.

Curt Blount stated, yes.

Charles Mellon asked, is it a bare lot now?

Curt Blount stated, yes. The reason we are going from the A-1 to the R-2 is some setback issues, side setback issues. The lot is 100’ wide and 260’ deep and the house we are planning is 79’5 long.

President Charles Anderson asked, does anyone in the audience have any questions?

Ken Kelly stated, I’m Ken Kelly and I live at 3808 Potowatomie Drive and I’m against changing the rezoning and leaving it as an A-1. We have had this development going in Leisure Acres subdivision and we don’t want to have any changes done to that. We want it left at A-1 and everyone else has abide by that. We don’t mind who buys the ground there, but that they abide by the same zoning that we are and the setbacks and there are covenant that has been written up in there for Leisure Acres Subdivision.

President Charles Anderson asked, what are the covenants?

Ken Kelly stated, no this is signed by everyone in the subdivision now.

President Charles Anderson asked, is that a copy of the convenants?

Ken Kelly stated, yes.

President Charles Anderson asked, can you leave that as a part of the record?

Ken Kelly stated, yes.

President Charles Anderson asked, does it state anything about?

Ken Kelly stated, just about having the right pitch and 1200 sq. ft. and that is apart of it. Everybody’s house is set back and it will lower the values of the homes and if one does it then 3 other lots that are still open that someone else can move in and do the same thing. We would rather just have it as A-1.

Curt Blount stated, this is going to be 2300’ home and I was told that there was some gossiping going around the neighborhood out there that I was going to put my house 10’ off of the road. The house is going to be at least 87’ off of the edge of the road. This isn’t going to be a thrown together manufactured home, this is going to be a stick built, all brick ranch home. Again, the only reason we are doing it is for the setback issues. The covenants has nothing to say about the setback issues, the setback is from the side not the road is what we are looking at the side of the lots where we are running into the problem. We are not asking anyone else to rezone out there, I would like this to be rezone so I can put this house up. Also I don’t know if it is on your maps that you have in front of you, but Hiawatha turns into Gallagher Road and back around to Potowatomie. Everything West of Gallagher Road is already zoned R-2. That is something else I have notice and thought I would point out to you.

President Charles Anderson asked, do the Commissioners have any questions at this time?

Attorney Altman stated, let me get out a copy of this so you can look at these. These are the restrictions that he gave us.

Don Ward asked, Diann is the front setback the same on an A-1 as it is on an R-2?

Director Weaver stated, no, A-1 setback is 60’ and R-2 is 32’.

Don Ward stated, I want a commitment on that.

Curt Blount stated, the setback, the house has already been drawn out on the land and it is 87’5 from the road.

David Scott asked, can’t he go through BZA and get the setback?

Director Weaver stated, he had that option to request a variance.

David Scott stated, I’m just curious why you choose this over the variance.

Curt Blount stated, I guess I wasn’t aware of that option at the time. If I would have been aware that I would have went that route, but I was not aware of that option.

President Charles Anderson asked, does anyone have any questions about the request?

Dennis Sterrett asked, what is the size on A-1?

Jay Clawson stated, sum of 30’ minimum of 15’.

Director Weaver stated, it is 15’ on each side sum of 30, 100’ on the rear.

Discussion among the board.

Don Ward asked, how long is your house?

Curt Blount stated, 79’5.

Director Weaver stated, the zoning would stay the same with a variance, but if he ever wanted to build on to the house or anything, he would have to come back for a variance.

President Charles Anderson asked, are you ever going to want to put an addition on after you build it?

Curt Blount stated, that is why we are building 2300 sq. ft., I don’t want to, I live in an 1800 sq. ft. home now.

President Charles Anderson stated, the lot is 100’ x 260’, how large?

Curt Blount stated, 261 deep.

President Charles Anderson stated, 100’. It just fits anyway.

Curt Blount stated, yes, it is just a few feet we are talking.

Director Weaver stated, it is just a few feet.

President Charles Anderson asked, do we have anything from the board here?

Jay Clawson stated, I don’t see anything on the side setbacks.

Attorney Altman stated, I just passed out the restrictions on all of the lots that are in this area.

Curt Blount stated, I plan as soon as the house is up and we are in it the plan is, if the lot next to us is still available we plan on purchasing it.

Sherri Blount stated, if I could add I think I was just going to add, and I’m not sure that most of the people who have bought out there have owned it for 10, 15 years and were fortunate enough to get the equivalent of two lots frankly for less than what we paid for the one. If it wasn’t a cost issue, we considered purchasing both to begin with. Financially we thought we were better off buying the one. It is a nice size lot and put a home on it, like he said if it is still open when we are done, and we can afford it, we will purchase it.

Ken Kelly stated, yes everyone here has space between their houses and it makes it attractive and more private. I have a drawing here that shows all of the people that own lots there and everyone here has a couple of lots. The one that doesn’t is the CDC and that, it is just, you know the side setbacks are just as important, you know as the front and back to the attractiveness.

President Charles Anderson asked, do you want to present that for evidence?

Curt Blount asked, can I ask Mr. Kelly a question?

President Charles Anderson stated, sure.

Curt Blount asked, Mr. Kelly are you concerned that this is not going to be an attractive looking place?

Ken Kelly stated, no just that everyone has a space between them. If you move there and someone moves next to you they are obviously going to deal with the same thing you do. Your homes are going to be setting neck and neck. That brings down the value when you have so many people that are just.

Curt Blount stated, I guess I don’t understand how you think it brings down the value with a 2300 sq. ft. home.

Ken Kelly stated, well just the attractiveness. The look it would be like in Lafayette where you have beautiful 300,000 homes and yet they only have 10’ between them. I guess someday I would like to sell the lots in the back where I’m at, but I’m not going to sell them neck and neck I want them so many in between.

Curt Blount stated, the houses on West of you that you own are already zoned R-2.

Ken Kelly stated, yea but it is all, A-1 for everyone else in the subdivision.

Curt Blount stated, everyone in the subdivision West of Gallagher is already zoned R-2.

Rose Kelly stated, Kenny owns R-2 and eventually will be changed when it is added to the second phase, we will try to rezone it to A-1 to keep it fair for the whole neighborhood.

President Charles Anderson stated, these lots were designed for housing. Is that not what it was designed for.

Ken Kelly stated, yes I assume so.

President Charles Anderson stated, when they originally did it, why would you have to buy two lots to put a house on it.

Ken Kelly stated, it wasn’t. It is just that everyone has.

Rose Kelly stated, before A-1 it was required that you had to have an acre I think that was the purpose to why everyone bought two lots.

President Charles Anderson stated, this is what 25 it is about a half acres.

Curt Blount stated, it is over a half-acre lot.

President Charles Anderson asked, do the Commissioners want to discuss this at all?

Rose Kelly stated, you have 15 houses in the neighborhood that go by this, this will be the only one that is different and if the neighbor rezones there is only going to be a maximum of 12’ between each house.

Curt Blount stated, again we wouldn’t be asking anything in the covenants about this.

President Charles Anderson stated, even if this is turned down, they can go to the BZA to try to get it approved.

Attorney Altman stated, always a possibility.

Don Ward asked, does that 79’5 include the overhand or the roof.

Curt Blount stated, we only have the blue prints, not the exact plans. The end of the house I could not tell you exactly what the overhangs are.

President Charles Anderson asked, does anyone else have any questions on this? Commissioners have any suggestions or do we want to vote?

David Scott asked, do you already have a floor plan in mind?

Curt Blount stated, yes sir, it is right here.

David Scott stated, I was wanting to know if that could be changed so the house fits on the lot.

Curt Blount stated, I don’t want to spend the money and put a house on it long ways.

David Rosenbarger stated, another thing that Don brought up was that is not including the eaves.

Director Weaver stated, yes, they setbacks are from the eaves.

David Rosenbarger stated, you may still need a variance with an R-2.

Sherri Blount stated, the original plan of the house, I thought they were 77’, we would definitely keep with in the confines of the…

Gary Barbour stated, that doesn’t always happen.

Sherri Blount stated, it doesn’t. They were…

Curt Blount stated, I’m sorry this is my fault, the house is 75’ long and this is my mistake, the garage we were moving the garage out 2’ so it will be a total of 77’, my mistake.

David Rosenbarger asked, does that include the overhang?

Curt Blount stated, again I can not answer that until we have the final plans of the house. I wish I could.

Attorney Altman stated, it has to.

Curt Blount stated, I have to.

Sherri Blount stated, with the covenants we could build a 1200 sq. ft. home with no garage, no landscaping and be with in the confides and not make it attractive and be in the covenants. It is frustrating to us that we are trying to build that on par with most of the neighbors, nicer than a few, not quite as nice as a few, but certainly average I think. That the issue is attractiveness because we could do something a lot cheaper, a lot smaller to meet the covenants.

President Charles Anderson asked, anymore questions?

Jay Clawson asked, this is going to be on the new sewer system?

Curt Blount stated, yes sir.

President Charles Anderson asked, anyone else have any questions at all?

Without further discussion the board voted.

The results of the vote were as follows: 6 affirmative and 3 negative. This will be presented to County Commissioners for their action.

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President Charles Anderson stated, next on the agenda would be subdivisions and we do not have any. We have discussion of Article 9.4002 White County Zoning Ordinance.

Director Weaver stated, last month we had before us the rezoning for Rangeline Properties and when it went into the meeting questioning Article 9.4002 whether the request was in front of the APC properly because of failure to appear. I have given the board members a copy of this ordinance so you can look at this. When I read this information in my opinion I feel it was not a failure to appear simply because we were notified before each prior that he would not be in attendance. I’ve talked to Jerry Altman our attorney and he agrees with me. I’m just bringing it to the board for clarification so I can take that rezoning request back to the Commissioners on Monday’s meeting.

Attorney Altman stated, the only thing I can say here is just to make sure that everyone understands, no one was noticed up. Diann is exactly right it is just so the board is aware of this and the question was challenged and that is about it. That is all we really can discuss. Whether this is or isn’t a correct interpretation is a function of the Director and her interpretation of the ordinance or some judge one of these days if it goes that far. I think Diann just wanted the board to know about this wasn’t really to get input back, it wasn’t to have a hearing on this or accept anyone else’s interpretations tonight from anybody else. It was brought before Diann and the board needs to know about it.

Greg Bossaer stated, Jerry in the revised ordinance, could that be clarified.

Attorney Altman stated, oh I think so. It should be it is like any particular section you look at the ordinance it could be clarified a little bit more and made in to a section or two. If you want to do that you can do that. On some of them it may be it ought to be done or maybe simpler a little bit. It is a good point that maybe this one maybe ought to say exactly what is failure to appear. Does that mean physically or not.

Don Ward stated, I think that word present is one of the problems, it should be represent.

Attorney Altman stated, and of course that is an interpretation. By the law and by the ordinance the interpretation here is Diann is to interpret it and make a decision on that. If someone has a question about that they take it next level.

President Charles Anderson stated, so through your interpretation by him coming in he was represented for those meetings that he missed.

Director Weaver stated, that was my interpretations yes.

President Charles Anderson stated, so…

Director Weaver stated, this will go back to the Commissioners Monday morning.

President Charles Anderson stated, so as far as discussion on this.

Attorney Altman stated, we have not notified to the applicant on this.

President Charles Anderson stated, so we really can’t discuss it here. If you want to make a statement.

Attorney Altman stated, I don’t think that is appropriate.

President Charles Anderson stated, now if you start getting upset or yelling or calling names.

Don Pauken stated, have I called any names yet. My name is Don Pauken as you all know. I would just like to read…

President Charles Anderson stated, you can not discuss this.

Don Pauken stated, no, this is another part of the ordinance, which I think you should be aware of.

President Charles Anderson stated, we can not discuss that here either at this moment.

Attorney Altman stated, it really isn’t up to us to decide this, this evening.

Don Pauken stated, I know that, I’m just want to re-enforce a position here that…

President Charles Anderson stated, she has made her interpretation, so it is going to go back to the Commissioners now, so that is the next level you have to go to is the Commissioners.

Attorney Altman stated, the board is not making a decision tonight.

President Charles Anderson asked, is there anymore business to discuss? Attorney’s fee. Do we have a motion on the attorney’s fees.

Gary Barbour stated, I second that.

President Charles Anderson stated, so moved. Do we have any more discussion?

Director Weaver stated, yes, I didn’t get it on the agenda, but Meadowbrook Subdivision are we progressing on that.

Attorney Altman stated, I’m waiting on what’s his face the lawyer to sign that settlement.

Director Weaver stated, Robert Dean the property owner of the one lot did contact me and he is curious as to what is going to happen to that road. Who is going to maintain it, who is going to improve it or what is going to happen with it? I didn’t know what to tell him.

Attorney Altman stated, it is where it is right now. That would be my answer to him it is where it is right now. Public road would be available and I don’t see any way it is going to be changed in statue or improvement status beyond what it is right now. None of these people Freeman or the people that bought those lots are going to do anything with it either.

President Charles Anderson stated, we have another guess.

David Uttermohlen stated, I’m David Uttermohlen and you have seen me here before, I’m here at Diann’s request. I’ve been trying to get Great Oaks apartments funded for several years now and the funding looks pretty good. Since the funding looks good I’m going to start spending money on things like engineering and final designs, and etcetera. One of the concerns I have is how far can I deviate from the existing design before I kick off a whole new round of reviews. Now Mr. Altman has suggested on one plot plan I submitted which was substantially different from the one I had previously submitted that would kick off a totally new process. I would have to the APC for a zoning change and I would have to go to the BZA for a variance change. So I’m kind of here to look for some perimeters to follow in terms of how many, what changes we can make without kicking off a whole new rounds of reviews. With that said, I would be happy if I have to go through the whole process again. You may not be happy, but I would be happy to do it if necessary. So I’ve got this is, I have a specific case and I don’t know if you want to use this as an opportunity to set new law or just pass judgement on a specific case. The question I’m asking tonight is if I show you the plans or the draft of the plan that I have come up pretty close to. Are you comfortable having Diann approve it and we go to a building permit or is this something you feel would have to go through the entire process again?

President Charles Anderson stated, is it to change the major from what you presented to City.

David Uttermohlen stated, in my opinion no.

President Charles Anderson asked, what is the City’s opinion?

David Uttermohlen stated, well the city has not seen this yet because it, I’m not going to go to the City and take their time.

President Charles Anderson asked, what are you going to do about the road coming across the houses?

David Uttermohlen stated, the house is gone and the road is straight and in line with part of the changes. The written commitment with the city with the zoning change requires that the drive or the entrance align with Woodlawn. That is going to align with Woodlawn. We have a couple more conditions including the variance that was set by the BZA and.

President Charles Anderson asked, do they want anything about sidewalks on that side of the road.

David Uttermohlen stated, there are no sidewalks, but there will be a sidewalk up to the entrance that aligns with Woodlawn.

Attorney Altman stated, the real problem you have coming before this board is it has absolutely no discretion on deciding the issue. This is an administrative decision by the Director or the BZA. This board approved or by law isn’t an interpretive body as to whether your plans conform. I’m not trying to say anything more or less than that. That is the problem with you coming here really the only person here that can really give the answers such as it is, is Diann.

David Uttermohlen stated, okay.

Attorney Altman stated, or properly present it, a request to change the commitment. If you are going to change the commitment you can advertise and properly present that and then the board could give you an answer without those there, this board, it just isn’t their job to give you the answer that you are asking for.

David Uttermohlen stated, well again the issue is not, I’m not asking for a change at this time. I came at Diann’s request to see if the board had the guidance for her in terms of the deviation that they would find acceptable. That is why I’m here, I have no… What my position on this is that we’ve got the correct zoning and we have the variance. Within those perimeters as long as I don’t change the setbacks or the number of units I should be good to and should be able to get a construction permit.

Dennis Sterrett stated, not without a drainage permit.

David Uttermohlen stated, well I have to follow County Law, State Law, Federal Law, it is not, that is not up for negotiation.

Attorney Altman stated, again for the Attorney Altman for the Board of Zoning Appeals you have to come before them with plans presented and the variance.

David Uttermohlen stated, this wouldn’t be a problem with this committee, but with Board of Zoning Appeals.

Attorney Altman stated, they can’t give you an answer.

President Charles Anderson asked, are you wanting to change the setbacks?

David Uttermohlen stated, no I don’t want to change the setbacks, I don’t want to change anything other than the confirmation of the buildings.

Attorney Altman stated, I would suggest that you talk to an attorney and get properly presented modifications of your plans.

David Uttermohlen stated, I have talked to an attorney and the attorney’s opinion is I don’t need to make a presentation to the board that the Board of Zoning Appeals has granted to me all of the variance that I need. So again if this is not the problem of this committee I will let the good gentlemen and women go home. There is no sense of them standing here listening to me discuss this with you. I would be happy to discuss this with you.

Attorney Altman asked, is there anything else?

The meeting adjourned.

Respectfully submitted,

Donald W. Ward, Secretary

White County Area Plan Commission

Diann Weaver, Director

White County Area Plan Commission