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The White County Area Plan Commission met Monday, August 9, 1999, at 7:30 p.m. in the Commissioners’ Meeting Room, Second Floor, County Building, Monticello, Indiana.

Members attending were: Jay Clawson, Gary Barbour, Ray Butz, Charles Anderson, Ron Pollock, Stephen Fisher, Don Ward and Rick Raderstorf. Also attending were Attorney Altman and Director Diann Weaver. 

Visitors Attending were: Sean Chiszar, B.J. Mursener, Donna Crisp, Dave Dilling, Kay Jennings and Laddie Shuman.

 

President Anderson stated, we have a new member here, Scott Kyburz and he is replacing Chuck Schuette for the Town of Wolcott.

 

The meeting was called to order by President Charles Anderson and roll call was taken. Jay Clawson made a motion to dispense with reading and approve the minutes of the meeting. Motion was seconded by Ron Pollock and carried unanimously.

 

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#687 B.J. Mursener and David Jordan; Requesting to rezone from I-1 to R-2 on lots #12, #13, #14 and #38 in the Industrial Addition. The property is located in the City of Monticello with lots #12, #13 and #14 on Ireland Street and lot #38 on Easy Street.

 

President Anderson asked, is there anyone representing this request?

 

B.J. Mursener was representing this request.

 

President Anderson asked, do we have anyone here with any questions about this request? Do the Commissioners have any questions about this request? Do you have anything to add?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, I think that the entire block is zoned Industrial currently. The only portion that is used for Industrial is a parking lot that Dave, two other guys, and I own, it was attached to the RCA factory but, for us it’s residential. There’s a duplex on the lots, single family and we want to build some single-family duplexes there. That’s really fully determined possibly on both and we want to become current with the zoning requirements but, the rest of it is one and two family residential in the area except for the parking lot.

 

President Anderson asked, do we have anyone in the audience with any questions?

 

Dave Dilling stated, I live on Ireland Street, I have property there. I have had property there for 50 years now and years ago I tried to build a house in that subdivision, I was declined no, it’s industrial only. Another neighbor of mine tried to build a house on the lot on Easy Street, Ed Criswell my neighbor, he was refused because it’s industrial. Now they have turned it around opened it up and now I have a duplex across the alley from me that runs from front to back. Why would anyone let a duplex get in the door go down the alley to get in the front door. I think that is kind of poor planning and I just wanted to see if they would straighten it out a little bit, if we build more up there, I don’t care what they build as long as it’s decent.

 

President Anderson asked, would you like to respond to that?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, the duplex, I know which one that he’s talking about, it’s a nice looking duplex. It was rezoned prior to being built, I have no involvement on that.

 

Dave Dilling asked, my question is, how was that rezoned without the property owners being notified that was being rezoned?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, I wasn’t a party to that, it was a couple of years ago and I can’t answer that.

 

Dave Dilling stated, I have been trying to get an answer on that same house. It would be 501, it burnt and the woman lives at Norway now, her house burnt, they wouldn’t even let her rebuild a house on the same lot, there wasn’t enough of it left. After the fire they said no, you can’t it has to be industrial you can’t rebuild it.

 

B.J. Mursener stated, I can’t comment to that, I can make the comment of the four lots involved, 3 of them are contiguous between two homes I believe. Those lots, when Dave and I purchased them had 2 old foundations full of oil cans and this and that. We cleaned the lots hauled the stuff away and didn’t fill it in and the other lot is across the alley piecing together the road, anything obviously would be new in there and would certainly not detract from the neighborhood and probably enhance it and be very suitable.

 

President Anderson asked, as far as entrances to your houses, they are all going to be from the street?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, I have to tell you something. I can’t make that guarantee, I have no plans for anything to be there but, depending on who wants what and these are 50’ lots, so bear in mind, it could be a layout or something. There is an alley there, the garage I would think would certainly be off of the alley, I can’t see putting a garage next to a house there feasibly.

 

President Anderson asked, what does it say in our Zoning Ordinance?

 

Director Weaver stated, I have never found where it addressed it.

 

Don Ward asked, do they have to have 1½ spots per unit?

 

Director Weaver stated, 2, they have to have 2 parking spaces per unit.

 

Don Ward stated, off street.

 

Director Weaver stated, off street.

 

B.J. Mursener stated, those on the alley, I’m like you, I have never seen anything relative to the parking spaces being off of the back and we are dealing with old original city lots and now the average width is wider. I don’t see where they built them without an alley but, they make it a lot wider to compensate for it.

 

President Anderson asked, do the Commissioners have any questions? Are you talking about putting duplexes or…?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, or single family.

 

President Anderson asked, what are the lengths of that? The lots.

 

B.J. Mursener stated, 135’.

 

President Anderson asked, does anyone else have any questions?

 

Don Ward asked, are there setbacks on that, on those lots?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, yes.

 

Director Weaver stated, R-2 would have your standard R-2 setbacks, 32’ front, 30’ rear, and a minimum 8’ on the side, 18' total.

 

Jay Clawson asked, if your running frontage from both sides like Lee Miller’s does, how do you set that?

 

Director Weaver stated, the front yard is always the roadside.

 

Jay Clawson stated, if your using both sides as an entrance you would be calling that a double frontage.

 

Director Weaver stated, you can’t have a front yard off of an alley.

 

B.J. Mursener stated, stated, if I recall, if something is attached, and we spoke about this. Isn’t the setback on the back 20’ or 30’ if it’s a detached garage it’s different and we we’re talking about it.

 

Director Weaver stated, right, if it’s attached to the house it still has the 30’ rear setback.

 

B.J. Mursener asked, so the setback if virtually the same if you were building something that was a dwelling unit or even an attached garage. Now, a detached garage can set closer to the alley?

 

President Anderson stated, right now we can’t decide where you can put it, where are you going to put houses on that anyway. We need to determine whether that’s the best entrance for the land. Which would you rather have, would you rather have that land stay Industrial or would you rather have….

 

Dave Dilling asked, are you talking to me?

 

President Anderson stated, yes. Would you rather have them leave that industrial or would you rather have the reverted back to residential in that area?

 

Dave Dilling stated, it doesn’t make any difference to me. I tried to make it residential when it was industrial and they wouldn’t let me. They said no, and they said no to Ed Criswell, he couldn’t better it either. Then they come along and let Lee Memmer do it, build that duplex going from front to Easy Street to the alley and I don’t want anymore of those kind of buildings in any area. I don’t care if it’s there or if it’s downtown or out at Norway that’s no way to build a house. You can’t build a duplex on a 50’ lot and have any room. Now, there are no garages to that duplex that they live in. You couldn’t get a garage in there because there’s no room and I just don’t want to see that happen again.

 

President Anderson asked, are all of these are 50’ lots?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, yes, they are 49 point something.

 

Director Weaver stated, Lee Miller did rezone that property within the last 5 years, it is a residential area, and I don’t know why it was ever set up Industrial. That was when the ordinance came in.

 

President Anderson stated, the way that he rezoned it, he didn’t have a duplex.

 

Director Weaver stated, he did rezone it to an R-2 to build a duplex.

 

B.J. Mursener asked, you rent your property right, the house that you own there?

 

Dave Dilling stated, yes.

 

B.J. Mursener asked, are there one or two families in that?

 

Dave Dilling asked, is there what?

 

B.J. Mursener asked, how many families are living in that house?

 

Dave Dilling stated, one and a single woman.

 

B.J. Mursener stated, so there are two families.

 

Dave Dilling stated, a man and a wife and a single woman.

 

B.J. Mursener stated, so there’s two families in it, in the industrial zone.

 

Dave Dilling stated, that house is 78’ long and 6’ on the two 50’ lots. We had permission to build that in 1953.

 

B.J. Mursener asked, you converted the garage or something?

 

Dave Dilling stated, that was the new house that was built, and rebuilt in 1971 when I had a fire. So every thing was rebuilt after the fire.

 

Jay Clawson asked, B.J., do you want to keep the first 200’ of that lot like lots #8 through #11 and then #43 and #40?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, the way that we are right now lot #8, #9, #10 are the parking lot across the street from the RCA Plant. Lot #11 is single family so is #12, #13, & #14, there is a house on lot #15. So #8 through #11 are the parking lots we do use there, then lot #38 that we are dealing with, there is a home on either side of it currently.

 

Jay Clawson asked, then #40, is #40 vacant?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, Dave and I own #40, #41, #42 & #43.

 

Jay Clawson stated, those are all…

 

B.J. Mursener stated, those are continuous, we have cleared that.

 

Jay Clawson asked, are you going to keep that industrial at this time?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, frankly at this time, yes. Very possibly in the future we will look at #40, #41 & #42 for residential and #43 will remain Industrial. 

 

Dave Dilling asked, is that on Easy Street?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, First Street.

 

Dave Dilling stated, First and Easy?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, yes.

 

President Anderson asked, do we have anything else?

 

Kay Jennings asked, I own Pinnacle Homes and I have a picture, Exhibit A, this is a home that a family would like to put on lot #12 in that addition. It’s a single residential home and it will go on a full foundation and be put in there properly.

 

Attorney Altman asked, would any duplex to go in there have to have a variance?

 

Director Weaver stated, I don’t know, I haven’t figured the square footage, it would have to be 10,000 square feet.

 

President Anderson asked, this is single family dwelling that you have here?

 

 

Kay Jennings stated, that’s correct. Mr. & Mrs. Dishon that are here this evening want to purchase the lot and put a home on it.

 

Jay Clawson stated, it would be nice to see, we have seen them set them in town, and we’ve tried to ask you earlier about homes not with the side of the house facing the street and not having the front door facing the street on those.

 

Director Weaver stated, I have not found anything that says they can not do that.

 

Jay Clawson stated, it’s not good planning to start neighborhoods with the sides of the house facing the street in my opinion, if it’s not in there it should be addressed.

 

Kay Jennings stated, they plan on putting a deck around it, I have seen it done and it looks nice on there when it’s completed.

 

Jay Clawson stated, no, it’s not good. There’s one on Maple Street that slid in there. It’s not good planning.

 

President Anderson asked, these are in city limits too aren’t they?

 

B.J. Mursener stated, yes.

 

Director Weaver stated, Jay, I have talked to Bob Braaksma about that and he thought that the City had something on that.

 

Jay Clawson asked, is that what it is?

 

Director Weaver stated, so you might ask him about that, but, if that’s a city ordinance…

 

President Anderson asked, but, that wouldn’t go through us?

 

Director Weaver stated, right.

 

B.J. Mursener asked, as far as the poor planning, I don’t know if the city does or doesn’t.

 

President Anderson asked, do we have any other discussion? Right now we’re really not going as far as the floor plan or anything else, we just want the best interest of the land. I say that we go ahead and vote.

 

B.J. Mursener stated, basically, the last thing on doing this would be all except, the East end of that lot would be industrial and the rest of it residential. Currently a mixed bag but, that would leave all of the industrial all at one end, on the East end.

 

President Anderson stated, I know that over the years the various plans change too, so I don’t know how many years ago you tried to get it changed to residential area. How many has that been, several years ago?

 

Ron Pollock stated, 1953 is what he said.

 

Ray Butz stated, 1972.

 

President Anderson asked, 10 years ago?

 

Dave Dilling stated, 50.

 

President Anderson stated, 50 years ago. Things have changed over a period of time.

 

Dave Dilling stated, you should let people know, I didn’t have a chance to buy that property because they wouldn’t let me have it. I wanted to build houses and they said, you have to put a business in there, so I couldn’t even buy the property, someone else did and I don’t think that’s quite right. If they built a house that would be different but, they built shot gun a ½ of a block long, I don’t think that a house.

 

With no further discussion the Board voted.

 

The results of the vote were as follows: 5 affirmative and 4 negative and 1 abstention. This will be forwarded to the City of Monticello for their action at their meeting.

 

Attorney Altman stated, this will be forwarded to the Town Council of Monticello with no recommendation. That will be heard when?

 

Director Weaver stated, next Monday.

 

Jay Clawson stated, next Monday at 7:00.

 

President Anderson stated, if anyone is interested in being there.

 

B.J. Mursener stated, unrelated, but I assume that everyone has at least read in the paper that on Fisher the Sixbey’s apartment complex has been funded and is officially a go.

 

Attorney Altman stated, thank you for the report.

 

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#688 Laddie and Helen Shuman, Owners; Vicki Pugh, Applicant; Requesting to rezone from R-2 to B-2 on lot #16, #17 and #18 in Lackner’s Locust Hill Addition. The property is located North of Monticello at 2602 N. West Shafer Drive.

 

President Anderson asked, do we have anyone here to represent this request?

 

Donna Crisp stated, I’m the realtor at Stefaniak Real Estate and the current owner of the property is here, the applicant, the buyer is here. She doesn’t want to add any structure to the property she just wants to take an enclosed front porch that is already existing and just make a little antique shop, dress boutique, something like that.

 

President Anderson asked, do we have anyone here with any questions about this request?

 

Director Weaver stated, we have received a letter, there is a copy of the letter in the file, there is also a copy of the restrictions in this subdivision and these restrictions state that this lot should not be used for business purposes. The lady that submitted the letter brought this to us.

 

Attorney Altman stated, I will read the letter. Exhibit A, received 7-19-1999 dated July 16, 1999 from Irene Blevens was read out loud to the Board and the audience members. The deed of dedication, Exhibit B, from Fred Lackner and Kathi Lackner, it indicates the following restrictions. The restrictions were read out loud to the Board and the audience members.

 

President Anderson asked, do the Commissioners have any questions?

 

Donna Crisp asked, Director Weaver, what lot is the go-cart track sitting on?

 

Director Weaver stated, I’m not sure, I did look those up earlier, which was not rezoned, it did receive a special exception variance for that purpose. It is one of these lots but, it is not rezoned, it was only a special exception variance.

 

President Anderson asked, how far are you from the lots that were rezoned?

 

Donna Crisp stated, two houses down.

 

Attorney Altman asked, which way?

 

Donna Crisp stated, South.

 

President Anderson asked, so there are two residential lots in-between?

 

Donna Crisp asked, are there two houses in between?

 

Laddie Shuman stated, just one.

 

Donna Crisp stated, just one, okay, and just one house in-between. I think Irene is scared that something like that is going to go in there, something loud that has lights on until midnight. I don’t know what she is thinking that is going in there but, we have never had that opportunity to tell her that she is just planning something to go in that enclosed front porch. She is not going to put spotlights in the back yard and she’s not going to put another go-cart track back there or a bungee jump or something like that. She just wants a small business off of the front of the house.

 

Laddie Shuman stated, when they put that go-cart right on down the road from us, that’s one reason that she wanted to move, because of the noise. Those are the people that are fighting what my wife wants to do.

 

President Anderson stated, the people that are, who this letter is from.

 

Director Weaver stated, not the people with the go-cart, that is not who that letter was from.

 

Laddie Shuman stated, I know it wasn’t from the go-cart, I know that it was from Mrs. Blevens, I heard her name mentioned. They are the ones that signed to have that go-cart put in because they had to get it rezoned for that didn’t they?

 

Director Weaver stated, they filed a special exception variance.

 

Laddie Shuman stated, that’s the reason that we moved to town.

 

President Anderson stated, you have moved into town but, you want to put a business back out where your…

 

Laddie Shuman stated, we are moved into town.

 

Donna Crisp stated, that 2 acres of woods that is South of Shuman’s place. Was that just rezoned?

 

Director Weaver stated, yes.

 

Donna Crisp asked, to?

 

Director Weaver stated, I can’t tell you, I believe that it was B-2, but, I can’t tell you that is correct. It was just to the South of this property but, it was not part of this subdivision.

 

President Anderson asked, what would you say legally could be done if it’s stated in this?

 

Attorney Altman stated, we’re not bound by private restrictions.

 

President Anderson asked, these are private restrictions then?

 

Attorney Altman stated, these are private restrictions. That doesn’t mean that they might not be, if they wanted to take a legal case about that but, we’re not bound by that or required it’s certainly evidence that we’re considering but it doesn’t control us.

 

President Anderson stated, but, we can say yes, and they can go ahead and sue whoever did it if they wanted to take them to court.

 

Attorney Altman stated, that’s right.

 

President Anderson stated, or come and sue us.

 

Attorney Altman stated, well, they can but, I don’t think we can prevail. In other words, we can approve it, the County Commissioners could approve it, and it wouldn’t be action against the county. It might be action against Mr. & Mrs. or Vicki Pugh who are apparently going to put the business in there that would possibly argumentatively violate these restrictions, it wouldn’t be us.

 

President Anderson stated, but, you’re wanting to put in like an antique shop?

 

Mrs. Laddie Shuman stated, I haven’t decided a boutique, antiques, something on that line.

 

Jay Clawson stated, the problem when we rezone with an existing building on there, if you put it as a “B” business they can automatically come in and the setbacks don’t have to adhere to the current requirements. That building is automatically grandfathered into that so if it’s too close to the road or if there is not ample room for a parking lot then the neighbors and everyone has to live with what we do as the vote on the Board right? We can’t make her…

 

Director Weaver stated, they have to have adequate parking for the type of business that they are going to put in because, we do have a parking schedule in the Ordinance. So they do have to meet the parking for the business, for the type of business that they are going to put in. 

 

Jay Clawson stated, alright.

 

Director Weaver stated, that couldn’t be determined though until we know exactly what kind of business that they are going to put in there.

 

Jay Clawson asked, that doesn’t tell us how close that house sits to the road?

 

Director Weaver stated, right, she was planning on living in the home too.

 

Attorney Altman stated, but that doesn’t mean that someone down the road might not, so you have to look at it like whatever could be might be. Obviously, there are a lot of businesses in this area too from a point of view, common knowledge there is a lot of business in this area.

 

Gary Barbour asked, how do you change these covenants?

 

President Anderson stated, he said that they do not bind us.

 

Attorney Altman stated, how would you change them? There is a real argument that they’re not binding if you don’t, they are good for 20 years unless you have a committee appointed by the lot owners or the plat. Then the plat committee can continue and enforce those restrictions. Without either one of them there is a real argument because of the lapse of time. Setting here not prepared, but, there is a real good argument that those restrictions wouldn’t apply today to them because of the passage of time and a committee not to enforce them made by the plat to enforce it.

 

President Anderson asked, you have to renew those every 20 years?

 

Attorney Altman stated, or have a committee, you will see in the new subdivisions, they have a committee named by the subdivider to keep them enforceable.

 

President Anderson asked, do the Commissioners have any questions?

 

Ron Pollock asked, why does it say that this property was rezoned in May? It says down here that this property was rezoned to business in May?

 

Director Weaver asked, is that the property to the South? Is that what it’s referring to?

 

Ron Pollock stated, okay, so there is business.

 

Director Weaver stated, the property just to the South of this was rezoned. That is not part of this subdivision.

 

President Anderson stated, Lots #1 through #10 could have been either or, when it was originally done but, the other lots were 40 years ago restricted.

 

Donna Crisp stated, I know there are lots to the south in Carter Subdivision, it is B-2 now, across the street is B-2.

 

Director Weaver stated, they have to understand that, these covenants did not apply to that property.

 

Attorney Altman stated, you have something similar to that it just goes further North is what I’m showing you goes further North, marking off lots is what I mean by that, lot #16, #17 & #18. This one goes all of the way out North. I assume that is North. This just gives a little more detail on the lots in the subdivision.

 

President Anderson asked, does anyone have any other questions? I guess that we are ready to vote.

 

With no further discussion the Board voted.

 

The results of the vote were as follows: 6 affirmative and 4 negative. This will be forwarded to the County Commissioners for their action at their meeting.

 

Attorney Altman stated, this will be forwarded to the County Commissioners with a positive recommendation that will be next Monday at 8:30 a.m. here.

 

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#237 Charles Lucy; Requesting secondary approval of a 2 lot subdivision to be known as Lucy Subdivision on 0.70 acres. The property is located in the Town of Burnettsville at 204 and 206 S. West Street.

 

President Anderson asked, is there anyone here representing the Charles Lucy Subdivision?

 

Steve Fisher made the motion to table this request.

 

Gary Barbour seconded the motion.

 

President Anderson stated, so moved.

 

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President Anderson asked, do we have any business?

 

Director Weaver stated, I would like to thank Ron, he attended our budget hearing. We won’t know anything until September. I do have one other thing, and I don’t know if any the Board members are aware of this or not but, I have an irate citizen over this one. We have a paint ballpark that has been established. I don’t know how to address this. Is A-1 a proper zoning for a paint ballpark? Do they have to fence this? They have signs up stating to roll up your windows because it’s a paint ballpark.

 

President Anderson asked, where is it?

 

Director Weaver stated, on the corner of 100 S. and 300 W., on the main intersection right there just West of Reynolds.

 

Gary Barbour asked, it would be just like a rifle range wouldn’t it?

 

Director Weaver stated, it’s a wooded area. Greg Bossaer, have you had any complaints on it?

 

Greg Bossaer stated, no.

 

Director Weaver stated, I’m really surprised because, they have a banner up on the highway. It’s a place in Brookston that’s doing it.

 

Greg Bossaer stated, I didn’t honestly know what it was until just this weekend and I just figured it out.

 

Director Weaver stated, basically what they are doing, the way that I’m taking it is, they are going out there and playing army with these paint ball guns.

 

Ron Pollock stated, they had an article in the paper on it.

 

Director Weaver asked, who is responsible if they hit a car with the paint?

 

Ray Butz stated, they are.

 

President Anderson stated, they are.

 

Attorney Altman stated, they surely are.

 

Director Weaver asked, are we saying that this is an acceptable zoning and they are proper? They never contacted us.

 

Jay Clawson stated, it’s just like the Country Club. Who is responsible if you go by the County Club and someone hits you with a golf ball.

 

Director Weaver stated, that’s true.

 

Attorney Altman stated, a County Club is zoned for golfing.

 

Greg Bossaer stated, it’s zoned Country Club.

 

President Anderson asked, what does a shooting range have to be zoned? Do we have anything on that?

 

Director Weaver asked, the one by Brookston?

 

Attorney Altman stated, the one by Brookston and range line, we did a special exception on that.

 

Director Weaver stated, I think that we did a special exception on that. I wasn’t sure if they were legal or not legal.

 

Attorney Altman stated, they had to put a fence up and everything.

 

Greg Bossaer stated, Director Weaver, I know that there are other paint ball courses.

 

Steve Fisher stated, there is one in Indianapolis, it’s an outdoor course like that.

 

Greg Bossaer stated, there are kids that go, I think, over in Logansport or Pulaski County. Maybe you could find out from some of the other counties and how they addressed it.

 

Director Weaver stated, I’m just trying to know what to tell people when they start doing this.

 

Attorney Altman stated, I didn’t know about it.

 

Director Weaver stated, it’s just happened in the last couple weeks. It’s a major intersection there and you really have no choice but to drive right past it, there’s really no way around it.

 

President Anderson stated, I think that the paint that they are using is water-soluble.

 

Attorney Altman stated, we would have to look at it, I guess find out, a little bit more. It’s one thing if you have a private thing but selling and renting out it’s a business.

 

Director Weaver stated, that’s what I assumed.

 

Attorney Altman stated, fence them up. Do you know any more?

 

Director Weaver stated, they have never contacted us.

 

President Anderson asked, have you seen anyone out there paint balling?

 

Director Weaver stated, I have seen people out there yes, many times.

 

Attorney Altman stated, maybe we will have to send a letter to them. Dahlenburg may be able to tell us, he owns that ground.

 

Director Weaver stated, I just saw on my way in here tonight that they have a sign up on State Road 43 and it is the place in Brookston, so I will just ask them.

 

A Board member asked, can they put up a sign like that?

 

Director Weaver stated, it’s like a banner thing, is what it is.

 

Jay Clawson asked, another thing that I want to know is, what is going on with Sportsman’s sign on South Main Street.

 

Director Weaver stated, I just heard about that last week.

 

Jay Clawson stated, that’s an off-premise advertising sign with no permit. There was never any permit issued through City or County.

 

Director Weaver stated, that’s not the only one that he has up either.

 

Jay Clawson stated, that went up in the middle of the night.

 

Director Weaver asked, where did the sign go that was there?

 

Jay Clawson asked, that was his church and I don’t think there was ever a permit for the church sign either, was there?

 

Director Weaver stated, no that’s my point. I intend to send a letter out. Tell me Jay Clawson, what is the situation with the billiard, poolroom?

 

Jay Clawson stated, I was on vacation last week when they had a meeting but, I had a call about 7:00 a.m. in the morning the weekend before, I forget what weekend that would have been. When it was real hot during the heat wave and the neighbors were all complaining there was kids out front at 3:30 a.m. in the morning.

 

Director Weaver stated, I haven’t received any calls about it. The Mayor called me and for warned me that you were going to be addressing this.

 

Jay Clawson staid, like I said, I wasn’t at the meeting and knew that there was a problem and was informed Saturday morning before they had the meeting on Monday. I was told that the police didn’t enforce the curfew and there were underage kids out there after, well after midnight at 2:30 p.m. in the morning. I had a service call late Saturday night, I went by there at 11:00 p.m., and there was a bunch of kids out there. I drove to the police station, told them I was Councilmen Clawson, and I wanted to be put on the record if there is a call from the people in the neighborhood of the arcade. I wanted the kids taken home or if they are a problem arrest them because, people are upset and don’t just fluff it off anymore so that’s all at the time that I can do.

 

Director Weaver asked, is it a pool hall or is it an arcade?

 

Jay Clawson stated, both.

 

Director Weaver stated, a pool hall has to have a special exception variance to even be in there.

 

Jay Clawson stated, they have both in there, so how do you actually claim them.

 

Director Weaver stated, what my understanding is, I’m supposed to be receiving a letter from the City on this but, I have yet to receive anything. 

 

Jay Clawson stated, George is supposed to be drafting what we want to be addressed.

 

Director Weaver stated, I have not received anything on this so far.

 

Jay Clawson stated, I wasn’t at the meeting to tell you exactly where it stands.

 

Director Weaver stated, that is all that I have.

 

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Attorney Altman stated, the only thing that I would say is if you see a councilperson talk to them about our budget.

 

Director Weaver stated, please do.

 

Attorney Altman stated, how busy it is in that department, and how much they need really to amend. They really need the help.

 

Director Weaver stated, they did talk quite a bit about a building inspector, Jerry Thompson from the Board of Zoning Appeals also attended that meeting. We were allotted 15 minutes and we was in there almost an hour. 

Attorney Altman stated, they were very interested.

 

Director Weaver stated, they said that they were interested.

 

Attorney Altman stated, but, they have been interested before.

 

Director Weaver stated, Jerry and Ron, neither one of you know that I followed up and walked back into their meeting Wednesday with a contractor and some of the questions that I was unable to answer, he was able to answer. They were very glad that I did bring him over so they quizzed him awhile on that too. So we will know in September.

 

President Anderson asked, I think that is all of the business that we have.

 

Jay Clawson made a motion to adjourn.

 

Ron Pollock seconded the motion.

 

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The meeting adjourned.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

 

 

Ray Butz, Secretary

White County Area Plan Commission

 

 

 

 

 

 

Diann Weaver, Director

White County Area Plan Commission