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The White County Board of Zoning Appeals met on Thursday, May 18 2006 at 7:30 p.m. in the Commissioners’ Meeting Room, Second Floor, County Building, Monticello, Indiana.

Members attending were Gary Barbour, David Scott, Carol Stradling, and Jerry Thompson. Also attending were Attorney Jerry Altman and Director Diann Weaver.

Visitors attending were: Timothy J. Plantenga, Charles R. Mellon, Sheila Nicely, Tom Nicely, Kim Robinson, Mike Mannion, Dwayne Starostka, Perry McWilliams, Don Pauken, Terry Beasy, Shelly Beasy, Marci Myhers, LaVerne Krug, George Clouse, Geraldine Clouse, Michael ???, and Randy Williams.

The meeting was called to order by Vice President Carol Stradling and roll call was taken. Jerry Thompson made a motion to dispense with reading and approve the minutes of the April 20, 2006 meeting. Motion was seconded by David Scott and carried unanimously. Attorney Altman swore in all Board members and audience members.

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#2509 Dwayne & Elizabeth L. Starostka; The property is located on Part S ½ NE 29-27-3 on 5.353 acres, located in the City of Monticello at 1210 N. Sixth Street. Tabled from the April 20, 2006 meeting.

Violation: None

Request: They are requesting a 41’ front setback variance from the current right-of-way to put up a 6’ privacy fence.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, you are here.

Dwayne Starostka stated, yes and I would like to apologize for last month, I thought it was the 28th.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, what else can you add for us?

Dwayne Starostka stated, basically we are putting up a 6’ privacy fence, it is not going to obstruct any view of any business on my side of the street. Basically just uh doing it for private events I’m going to hold in there. I want to do some fundraisers and stuff like that for the community. If someone has any illness that could use help, I want to do like functions there, I want to do like girl scouts, boy scouts things to generate things like that. Car washes what ever


we can do. That is why I want to have a large venue for there. I’ve got some pictures.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, whatever you give us we do keep so if you want them back.

Dwayne Starostka stated, that is okay. Up and down 6th Street like Casey’s they are closer to the street. Just a hind site. I measured that out. Where they are standing in the picture that is where the fence will be if we get the okay. It gives up a lot of property.

David Scott asked, does anybody know what the projective new road is going to do to that particular area?

Director Weaver stated, yes, we have it in the file.

Attorney Altman stated, I have a survey here and I will give it to Carol first and then you can look at it and view it. Diann how far will this fence be from there.

Director Weaver stated, according to the survey, what this survey is, we notified American Consulting Incorporated about this variance that is something we are doing with anything being done on 6th St. at this time. They amended the survey that we sent to them and sent it back and states on there the fence once the road widening project is complete the fence will be 9’ from the road right-of-way. Not necessarily the pavement, but the right-of-way.

Dwayne Starostka stated, the right-of-way from the edge what is that 28’ or 30’.

David Scott stated, right here it says that an existing right-of-way is 30’.

Attorney Altman stated, it looks like it says it will take 10’.

Director Weaver stated, you can look at this.

Dwayne Starostka stated, I asked you before on that and I wasn’t sure.

Director Weaver stated, at the time that we had talked we hadn’t received that back yet.

Attorney Altman stated, this is an exhibit and it shows it is 10’ and you fence would then be 9’ away from the right right-of-way.

Dwayne Starostka stated, yea, which would still leave you….

David Scott asked, did they say how far it would actually be off?

Director Weave stated, pardon me.

Attorney Altman stated, the survey shows you their Dave.

Dwayne Starostka stated, it would be 19’ from the edge of the fence right now to the edge of the street and fence. Then from the center it would be 15. So it would be 34’.

Director Weaver stated, this privacy fence is going to go where the current fence is.

Dwayne Starostka stated, there is a chain link fence there now and on the other side where you can’t really see there a golf course right there. It is still like 4’ or 3’ from that fence.

We plan to landscape and keep it all nice and everything.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any questions from the board? Jerry?

Jerry Thompson stated, nothing at this time.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, Dave?

David Scott stated, the only question I might have is driveway on your property and the property either way when they widen it.

Dwayne Starostka stated, oh no you will still have 19’ from the fence to the edge of the street. I’m going to kick it back another 2’ the fence so I’m going to move it even farther.

David Scott stated, we have to go with what is on the survey.

Dwayne Starostka stated, yea….

Attorney Altman stated, for the record I marked the photos Exhibit A. The survey that was done by Mr. Milligan as Exhibit 1.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, Gary?

Gary Barbour stated, no.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any questions from the audience either for or against? Any fan mail?

Attorney Altman asked, described the fence?

Dwayne Starostka stated, it is going to be a 6’ wood fence. I have another picture. Dog-eared treated fence.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any other questions?

David Scott stated, that is a solid fence and we are going to move the street and the right-of-way is going to be within 9’ of it and then the roadway will be how far in off.

Attorney Altman stated, I’m looking at this.

Gary Barbour stated, it doesn’t say.

Director Weaver stated, it has been a while since I have spoken to him, I don’t believe the if I remember right the asphalt is not going any closer.

David Scott asked, they are going to add a lane through there?

Director Weaver stated, I don’t believe so. Look at the letter.

David Scott stated, the traffic is pretty fast through there and you are going to put up a blind there so someone trying to pull out if there are driveways on either sides or his driveway, there should be room for a car to pull out.

Dwayne Starostka stated, there is 70’ of entrance and exiting. It is real close to 70' and still has 19’ from the edge of the pavement.

David Scott stated, that is what I’m trying to find out, to make sure there is enough room for the car window to see.

Director Weaver stated, I can’t answer that for sure. I spoke to him last month I believe he said it was going to be utilities that go through there, but I don’t believe the pavement is going any closer.

Dwayne Starostka stated, where the pavement goes right now it is 38’ from the road. That is the same thing as Condo’s and Son.

David Scott stated, I want to make sure they are not moving the street closer and you have to take the fence down or there is a blind there to keep customers from pulling out.

Dwayne Starostka stated, there is room there.

Attorney Altman asked, how will they get in and out?

Dwayne Starostka stated, there is 70’ of entrance and existing.

Attorney Altman stated, rather than have a solid fence along here, there is 70’

Dwayne Starostka stated, that is my entrance and exit.

Attorney Altman stated, is the same exit and entrance that you presently have.

Dwayne Starostka stated, yes.

Attorney Altman stated, that will not be solid fence.

Dwayne Starostka stated, no, you still have 38’ so even if they took 10’ you still going to have 28’.

Attorney Altman stated, no I mean your place will have 70’ of area that does not have any solid fence at all.

Dwayne Starostka state yes, I haven’t measured but it is between 60’ and 70’…..

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, the survey says 100’.

Dwayne Starostka stated, oh I never looked at it, I was guessing small numbers. So there is a 100’. I put a big entrance.

Attorney Altman asked, does that answer your question Dave?

David Scott stated, yes.

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the property is properly zoned A-1, Agricultural.


2. That the lot is a proper subdivision of land as provided by the White County Subdivision Ordinance.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request is for 41’ front setback variance from the current right-of-way to put up a 6’ privacy fence and that there would be no visual obstruction in the area of entrance and exist (100) by the fence it would be 28 or plus from the road right of way. That part of the South half of the Northeast Quarter of section 29, Township 27 North, Range 3 West in Union Township, White County, Indiana Described by: Commencing at a railroad spike at the Southeast corner of the Northeast quarter of said Section 29, thence North (assumed bearing) along the section line 51.78 feet to a survey nail and the point of beginning; thence North 87 degrees 50 minutes West 1338.20 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe; thence North 88 degrees 19 minutes West 436.47 feet to a ½ iron pipe; thence North 534.50 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe; thence East 1113.52 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe; thence South 198.00 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe; thence East 660.00 feet to a survey nail on the section line; thence South 400.00 feet to the point of beginning, containing 20.00 acres. Being 5.353 acres in the city of Monticello and 14.647 acres in Union Township.

COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located in the City of Monticello at 1210 N. Sixth Street.

7. That the variance herein authorized and granted is not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make typical or recurrent the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said condition or situation of the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variance is based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variance under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


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#2512 Brian G. & Betty J. La Ha; The property is located on S ½ of S ½ of 28-28-3 on 0.048 of an acre also known as Tract #35, located off of East Shafer Drive at 6074 N. Harding Court. Tabled from the April 20, 2006 meeting.

Violation: None

Request: They are requesting a 30’ front setback variance, a 17’ rear setback variance, a 3’ South side setback variance, and a 2’ North side setback variance to build a new home. Also a 1’ rear setback to build an unroofed deck.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, this has been withdrawn and they no longer own the property.

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#2514 Timothy J. & Roxanne L. Plantenga; The property is located on Part NW SE 29-27-2 on 11.520 acres, West of Idaville at 10598 E. US Highway 24.

Violation: Built a shed out of compliance with the setback requirements.

Request: They are requesting a 22’ front setback variance and a 55’ rear setback variance to build a room addition and to bring the existing home into compliance.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, and you are Mr. Plantenga?

Tim Plantenga stated, yes, I’m Tim Plantenga. About the room that is in violation I purchased two buildings from the Amish people that had them delivered, the one replaced a single car garage that was falling down. I tore it down and put it there, I got a permit for that. The other one I didn’t realize it had to be 80’ from the highway, so I went in and talked to Diann and she said you have to move it. So I had the guy come back from the Amish people and paid him $100 and he picked it up and moved it 80’ back and I thought it had to be 6’ from the property line and he are saying 8’ now.

Director Weaver stated, it has to be 5’ and the survey says you are only 4’.

Tim Plantenga stated, well I measured from the fence, to you have a picture the way our property is.

Director Weaver stated, I don’t know that you will be able to see the fence. They have a copy of the survey.

Tim Plantenga stated, well on the survey it shows 11.2 acres, I also own 6 acres on one side and 6 acres on the other side and the one 6 acres consist behind the house property. This right here comes back like this and comes clear over to the railroad tracks. That is 11.2 acres. I also own 6 acres over here and 6 acres over here. The 6 acres over here comes over behind the house and cuts over like this and all the way down this way. That is the building out of compliance. I measured from the fence when I had the guys come back and gave them $100 to move it further away from the road to get the 80’ from the road, we measured 6’ or 8’ I haven’t been home since you’ve been out there. I’ve been gone since Sunday, so I really don’t know what it is, but I measured from the fence line which I thought was here, I haven’t talked to Milligan I don’t know what he has come up with. I didn’t realize I thought we were in compliance, but we will get into compliance. Manner of fact I’m thinking about moving that building over here somewhere different. I will get that in compliance. That is something that just happened this week. The new variance I’m trying to get is the house, we want to build an 18’ x 22’ room on the side and found out that the house is I believe 55’ from the highway, built in the 1920’s. To build the room on we are going to come back so many feet, I forget how many feet, but she said we had to be 80’ from the back property line, well the way the place is surveyed out into 3 parcels it is not 80’ from the back line, but we own all the property behind we have 25 acres all together.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, before you continue on much farther Mr. Plantenga, typically the board addresses the violation first. Do we wish to do that at this time or?

Tim Plantenga stated, well I’m going to take care of that. I thought I was in compliance until my wife, I talked to her Monday or Tuesday and she said that Diann was out there and she got a letter saying that we are in violation. I had no idea that we were.

Director Weaver stated, there is a farm fence there.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, is there a fine associated with this?

Director Weaver stated, well I sent him a letter stating there could be a fine.

Tim Plantenga stated, this week.

Director Weaver stated, actually we sent it last week and it came back.

Tim Plantenga stated, I haven’t been home since Sunday and my wife is telling me hey we got a letter, it shocked me because I thought I was in compliance. I had that guy come back and paid a $100 to move it back away from the highway and we measured from the fence line.

Director Weaver stated, it is a portable building.

Tim Plantenga stated, right I had stone hauled in, I was trying to do things right. I will move it.

David Scott stated, I make a motion that we will waive the fine if he gets the shed into compliance.

Jerry Thompson stated, the building is on runners.

Tim Plantenga stated, pardon me.

Jerry Thompson asked, this building that needs to be moved, is it on runners?

Tim Plantenga stated, right, yes it can be moved.

Jerry Thompson stated, on skids not attached to the ground.

Tim Plantenga stated, yes I’m going to move it out in the barnyard, so we don’t have this problem.

Jerry Thompson stated, I will second this motion.

Director Weaver asked, will there be a time frame on this, this helps me out?

David Scott asked, what do you need?

Director Weaver stated, what ever he needs.

Tim Plantenga stated, maybe 30 days, I’ve got to call the guy up and make sure he has time to come and move it.

David Scott stated, 30 days.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, it has been moved and seconded. All in favor say “aye”. Anyone opposed? Motion passed: fine is waived 4 to 0.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, okay now we are moving on to the variance request. Do we need a refresher?

Tim Plantenga stated, yea I can do that. The house was built in the 1920’s and the house is 55’ from the highway and now we are not going to build to the front of the house, we are going to come back behind the living room which is about 12’ and we want to go out 18’ and go to the back and build a Florida room on. We have to have the variance to build it from the highway and that would be 80’ and then it is to be 100’ from the back property line. The way the survey is right here it is not 100’ from this lot even though we own from here clear back to the railroad tracks 25 acres. The way it is surveyed in 3 parcels.

Jerry Thompson stated, it is treated as separate parcels if he was to combined them all it would eliminate a lot of problems. Someday you might want to consider that.

Director Weaver stated, they have just recently bought these separate parcels. Plus they have a kennel on the 11 acres and that might affect that.

Attorney Altman stated, yes.

Tim Plantenga stated, I have another questions and I probably shouldn’t bring this up, but I’m going to. I’m trying to do everything right. We had a pole barn built and that is 24’ from the back line, should that have been 100’.

Director Weaver stated, no different setbacks for different types of building. The home is the one.

David Scott stated, what about the kennel.

Director Weaver stated, there is a kennel on the property.

David Scott asked, how does that come into play?

Director Weaver stated, they requested the kennel approval it was on the 11.2 acres and if they combine the property it may affect the kennel special exception.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, are you interested in combining these lots?

Tim Plantenga stated, I really didn’t have any need to, but I guess I could. What I was thinking was about this little piece behind the house that is tied into this 6 acres was making it come straight back. We don’t plan on selling or moving the place. We are happy there and that is just 3 parcels the way we bought it and we just figured we would leave it like it is. We are going to sell 6 here or 6 here, no neighbors and we are happy.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any questions from the board?

Jerry Thompson stated, no.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any comments from the audience either for or against?

Attorney Altman stated, tell us about the home.

Tim Plantenga stated, concrete slab, concrete blocks, windows connected to the house.

Without further discussion the board voted.

The board finds the following:

1. That the property is properly zoned A-1, Agricultural.


2. That the lot is a proper subdivision of land as provided by the White County Subdivision Ordinance.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit. The existing home built in the 1920’s is not in compliance to the ordinance, rear not in compliance because of a split, however the addition proposed will be built away from the road and no obstructions to view will be there.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request is for 22’ front setback variance and a 55’ rear setback variance to build a room addition and to bring the existing home into compliance on that part of the Northwest Quarter of the Southeast Quarter of Section 29, Township 27 North, Range 2 West in Lincoln Township, White County, Indiana Described by: thence North 0 Degrees 25 Minutes 34 Seconds West (N 0 25’ 34” W) 621.70 feet to a wood corner post; thence South 84 Degrees 36 Minutes 49 Seconds East (S 84 36’ 49” E) 64.39 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe w/I.D. (IP) set; thence North 2 Degrees 05 Minutes 09 Seconds East (N 2 05’ 09” E) 261.07 feet to an IP set on South right-of-way of U.S. 24 thence South 87 Degrees 36 minutes 44 seconds East (S 87 36’ 44” E) along said right-of-way 284.17 feet; thence South 3 Degrees 29 Minutes 07 Seconds West (S 3 29’ 09” W) 88.00 feet to an IP set (passing through an IP set at 1.70 feet); thence South 29 Degrees 23 minutes 18 Seconds West (S 29 32’ 18” W) 68.00 feet to an IP set; thence North 88 Degrees 59 Minutes 16 Seconds West (S 88 59’ 16” W) 152.00 feet to an IP set; thence South 2 Degrees 17 Minutes 28 Seconds West (S 2 17’ 28”W) 114.00 feet to an IP set; thence South 84 Degrees 36 Minutes 49 Seconds East (S 84 36’ 49” E) 690.00 feet to a large iron pipe found; thence South 1 Degrees 44 Minutes 57 Seconds West (S 1 44' 57” W) 219.43 feet to an IP set thence South 1 Degrees 17 Minutes 19 Seconds West (S 1 17’ 19” W) 227.70 feet to an IP set on the North right-of-way of TP) and W Railroad; thence South 83 Degrees 31 Minutes 00 Seconds West (S 83 31’ 00” W) along said right-of-way 838.16 feet to the point of beginning; said described tract containing 11.520 Acres, more or less.


COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located West of Idaville at 10598 E. US Highway 24.


7. That the variance herein authorized and granted is not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make typical or recurrent the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said condition or situation of the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variance is based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variance under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, you need to get your building permit before you proceed.

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#2515 George D. & Geraldine M. Clouse; The property is located on 0.449 of an acre, Part of NE ½ of the NE ¼ of 21-28-3, located South of Buffalo on the South Side of C.R. 800 N, between Lake Breeze Drive and Evergreen Drive.


Violation: None

Request: They are requesting a 15’ front setback variance to build a new garage.

Jeri Clouse stated, hi I’m Jeri Clouse and our house is across the street from this property, so we would like to build a garage there. There is a drop off at the end of the lot, I know it looks like we have a lot of property there, we have to build closer to the road then we would like to simple because it does drop off in the back.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, Diann if there was a residence on this property could they have put the garage closer?

Director Weaver stated, no.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, we have an awful lot of garages that are closer than…

Jeri Clouse stated, yes.

Director Weaver stated, in an R-2 zoning it is 32’ off of the road.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any questions from the board? Any questions from the audience either for or against? So you will park across the street.

Jeri Clouse stated, from our house.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated all though you do have parking area at your house this would be enclosed parking.

Jeri Clouse stated, yes.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, this will be single story?

Jeri Clouse stated, yes it will be under the 17’ high.

Director Weaver stated, I have their plans here.

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the property is properly zoned R-2, One and Two Family Residential.


2. That the lot was an existing lot of record at the time of enactment of the ordinance, as defined in Section 2.114. Because of the topology of the lot it can not be built upon in the area usually expected. There is no traffic obstruction as a consequence of this proposed use.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request is for a 15’ front setback variance to build a new garage on that part of the Northeast Quarter of the Northeast Quarter of Section 21, Township 28 North, Range 3 West in Liberty Township, White County, Indiana described by: Commencing at the Northeast corner of the above said Section 21 marked with a ½ inch iron pipe; thence West (assumed bearing) along the section line 565.60 feet; thence South 8.51 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe on the Northwest corner of lot #13 in Lake Breeze Subdivision #3 and the point of beginning thence South 11 degrees 02 minutes 00 seconds West 159.78 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe thence South 78 degrees 29 minutes 56 seconds West 94.25 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe; thence North 08 degrees 27 minutes 21 seconds West 159.86 feet to the South line of a public road; thence North 74 degrees 12 minutes 30 seconds East along said road 68.90 feet to a ½ inch iron pipe and South 89 degrees 08 minutes 00 seconds East 80.35 feet to the point of beginning containing 0.449 of an acre.

COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located South of Buffalo on the South side of C.R. 800 N, between Lake Breeze Drive and Evergreen Drive.


7. That the variance herein authorized and granted is not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make typical or recurrent the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said condition or situation of the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variance is based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variance under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, you need to get a building permit before you proceed.

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#2516 Thomas L. Hoster; The property is located on Part of Lot 1 in Addition #5 to the Town of Wolcott at 308 West School Street.


Violation: None

Request: He is requesting a 27’ front setback variance (Fourth St.) to build an enclosed porch, also requesting a 10’ front setback variance (School St.) and a 29’ rear setback variance to bring the house into compliance.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, and you are?

Marcy Meyers stated, I’m Marcy Meyers and I’m standing in for Tom Hoster. Here is his letter.

(This letter is giving Marcy permission to represent Mr. Hoster.) What we are doing is remodeling the outside of his house. On the porch he had an existing aluminum awning over it. What we did was tore it down and what we are wanting to do is add on a one story enclosed porch where the concrete pad is already there. We are going to put windows and two doors in it. Put a sloped roof on it that is already on part of the house. It will go right into it.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, so the only area of construction is the one facing Fourth Street?

Marcy Meyers stated, yes.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any questions, Gary?

Gary Barbour stated, yes explain to me you are talking about a concrete pad.

Marcy Meyers stated this all here is concrete this porch right here, it is a step up from this concrete pad here.

Gary Barbour stated, so basically you are talking about this where it says porch.

Marcy Meyers stated, yes. There use to be an existing roof over it.

Attorney Altman asked, is that the door you are talking about?

Marcy Meyers stated, yes.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, Dave?

David Scott stated, no.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, Jerry?

Jerry Thompson stated, just over hang or enclosed.

Marcy Meyers stated, it will all be enclosed. We sent in drawings to what it would like when it is done.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any comments from the audience? Any mail for this?

Director Weaver stated, no.

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the property is properly zoned R-2, One and Two Family Residential.


2. That the lot was an existing lot of record at the time of enactment of the ordinance, as defined in Section 2.114.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit. This is an enclosed porch one story on an existing cement pad.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request is for a 27’ front setback variance (Fourth St.) to build an enclosed porch, also requesting a 10’ front setback variance (School St.) and a 29’ rear setback variance to bring the house into compliance on Lot Number One (1) in Addition Number Five (5) to the Town of Wolcott. EXCEPT, Beginning at a point which is the northwest corner of the Lot No. 1 in the 5th Addition of Wolcott; thence East 70 feet to the Northwest corner of Lot 2 of 5th Addition; thence South between Lot 1 and 2 of 5th Addition 85 feet; thence Westerly 62.3 feet to the East boundary line of the public highway; thence in a Northwesterly direction 85 feet along the East line of a public highway also being the west line of Lot no. 1 to the point of beginning. Being out of the north end of Lot No.1, in White County, Indiana.

COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located in the Town of Wolcott at 308 West School Street.


7. That the variances herein authorized and granted are not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make reasonable practicable the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variances are based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variances under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, you need to get your building permit before you proceed.


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#2517 Michael T. & Sharon A. Mannion; The property is located on 0.205 acres, out of the South Half of the South Half of Section 34, Township 27 North, Range 3 West in the City of Monticello at 1007 E. Ohio Street.

Violation: None

Request: They are requesting a 29’ front setback to build a new detached garage.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, and you are?

Michael Mannion stated, I’m Michael Mannion and married to Sharon Mannion. We bought this place in October of 2004 from Scott Giese. We were going to use it as a second vacation home, but financially it is too hard to keep up two houses. We are making this our retirement home. Last October I came into your office and approached you and wanted to know what we had to go through and what the requirements were to build a garage. The first thing we needed was a survey since we didn’t have one. Not your department but someone else I knew directed me to a Mr. James Milligan and I went to see him last October and I know he took a long time and I didn’t know why, but I do know now that his wife, he has a lot of trouble with his wife so I thought well you can’t build a garage in the winter and I didn’t’ want to do that anyway. So in the spring in April I approached him and he said I can take care of it. He came out and did a survey and I brought that in with a request to build a garage and the different things we had to get and I don’t remember what they all were. These were presented to you and this is the point we are now.

Director Weaver stated, Mr. Mannion did bring in plans for his garage, yesterday.

Attorney Altman stated, these are 2 sheets of paper full of his plans.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, Mr. Mannion the people in the audience don’t really see, put the garage further back from the roadway you would have to put it around the house on the lake side of your house, wouldn’t you?

Michael Mannion stated, further back from the driveway, there is no way I can get back there.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, so if you want the garage.

Michael Mannion stated, if I want the garage I would need a variance to put it in front correct.

David Scott asked, is this going where this shed is?

Michael Mannion stated, yes, there is a shed there, that shed is pretty small about an 8’ x 10’. It is in that area yes. I thought about putting it on the other side next to the Tom Felder’s place, but the gas line is there and to move those gas lines are prohibited. I don’t want to do that.

Jerry Thompson asked, how did you come about this 6’ dimension between the house and the garage?

Michael Mannion stated, I was informed by the Building Department that is what I had to have.

Jerry Thompson stated, you had to have that okay.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, Diann and I are just kind of discussion that Jerry and if he were to attached it that roof line of the house doesn’t allow for a real good attachment because it would go right there where the shed is and there is a dormer. It would be very challenging to attach it.

Michael Mannion stated, yes, I would rather have a detach garage.

Attorney Altman stated, you have the city sewer system there.

Michael Mannion stated, yes, I have a septic and well. See the over hang it is in there. (showing people on the diagram where the gas line is and the well and septic.)

Several are talking at once.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, Gary any questions?

Gary Barbour stated, no.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, Dave?

David Scott asked, is it going on the sewer system or the Town system?

Michael Mannion stated, I don’t understand.

David Scott asked, isn’t this in the City limits?

Director Weaver stated, it is in the city limits.

David Scott asked, why isn’t it hooked up to the….

Director Weaver stated, I can’t answer that.

Michael Mannion stated, it hasn’t came through yet.

Director Weaver stated, I don’t know that there are any plans to do that.

Michael Mannion stated, I’d like to see it.

Director Weaver stated, in answer to your question they can go closer if they meet the building code requirements. They would have to go into the house and put in firewalls in the house.

Jerry Thompson stated, even if he moves it 2’.

Director Weaver stated, I don’t know what the distance is, that is a building department code.

Michael Mannion stated, yes I talked to Mike Rupel about it and he said build 6’.

Director Weaver stated he would probably have since he is your neighbor.

Michael Mannion stated, yes he is, I use to be the building inspector in Hammond and now I’m on the other side of the fence now. I see how the people…

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, are we ready to vote? Any comments from the audience.

Sheila Nicely stated, I’m Sheila Nicely and we live next door to him. I wanted to know when Mr. Milligan when he says October I asked him to come out last August it took him 8 months to come out and he supposable did his side and he sends me a bill for $330 saying he did the survey. How far, when you see on here how far is he coming from the lot line and I can not find the numbers.

Attorney Altman stated, it says 4’ on the survey.

David Scott stated, it says 4’ on this survey.

Sheila Nicely stated, right, but the problem is there is a marker up here.

David Scott stated, this is his right here.

Sheila Nicely stated, right, the road wraps this way, so when, we are going to pick up here this is his shed, we are going to pick up here and run 189’ this way. There are no markers, markers are by the mailbox, the next one is down at the lake. There are evergreens so where is it at? I went over and seen Mr. Milligan twice and asked, him if he could please come out, he said he put the marks in why is there a debate. I was not there when he did it.

David Scott stated, there are other markers there if you can find them. Do you own this piece of property here?

Sheila Nicely stated, yes. That is what I’m saying it makes it so hard to try and figure out just the other side of the mailbox 189’ down to the lake.

(She is going over a map.)

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, Mrs. Nicely you are looking at the survey and there are circles on the survey where those markers are placed.

Sheila Nicely stated, suppose to be.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, and you are saying they are not there.

Sheila Nicely stated, they are not there.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, now they can be.

Sheila Nicely stated, the yellow tag ones, see here, he is claiming he put them there so I circled them in red and there are only two.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, Diann has a picture of two here, so these two are there.

Director Weaver stated, this is a survey of your property.

Sheila Nicely stated, yes.

Director Weaver stated, that is the difference.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, okay sorry.

Director Weaver stated, the one by the mailbox would be the one in the yellow.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, if you can get your hands on a GPS unit, if you know someone with a GPS unit, there you can maybe go that direction.

Sheila Nicely stated, I wanted to know if this was an encroachment. What is the liability on this.

Several are talking at once.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, so your point if I can make clarify is that the survey we are looking at for Mr. Mannion property is now correct.

Sheila Nicely stated, no, no I’m not saying that. No I didn’t say that at all.

Jerry Thompson stated, you just wish it was marked a little clearer.

Sheila Nicely stated, that is was marked at all. There is a marker in the front.

Michael Mannion asked, do I interject when she is done?

Jerry Thompson stated, yes.

Michael Mannion stated, you can count them there were 6 of them. We were there the day after he surveyed I counted the markers and the flags. There was a flag on every marker and they were there until about a week ago and two of them disappeared and I checked today before I came down to this meeting and I found those pipes. They have a yellow cap on them, which is Jim Milligan's trademark. I found them all.

Sheila Nicely stated, inside the fence then on your side.

Michael Mannion stated, our fence is partly on your property and that will be corrected.

Sheila Nicely stated, I’ m not saying.

Michael Mannion stated, no, no let’s keep this legal, that will be corrected. If you can look at this thing there is a broken line, the site improvement survey, it shows a broken line and according to Mr. Milligan years ago before Geise and the Nicely where involved they made a spot and the redid this and it is recorded with the county. That is what this new survey is about and I feel if I can find those stakes that he put in and the flags were there, and now they are gone and I don’t know what happen and I don’t really care. I know the stakes are there and I feel I’ve done my part and I don’t know what else I can do.

Sheila Nicely stated, the flags are wrong and I have pictures today.

David Scott stated, the pipes are in the ground and if you find those.

Sheila Nicely stated, I’ve tried I was there that afternoon and two flags were wrong at that point in the middle of the yard between the boulders and I said to the other neighbor what are they doing there and he said I don’t know. I said that is in the middle of no where, these flags don’t mean a thing. So one of the flags was still there this afternoon when I stated to take some of these. So today I pulled that flag up that goes between.

David Scott asked, are you opposed to this variance?

Sheila Nicely stated, I want to know where my property line is and if he is going to be 4’ where does that 4’ come from and see there are evergreens there that what I want to know where the property line is and who owns the evergreens.

David Scott stated, the garage if you can see what he is doing it will be further from the property line than what his existing house is.

(Going over the survey again.)

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, I would guess that he placed the flag in your yard to get a vocal point.

Michael Mannion stated, that is what it was.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, if he was going through those bushes and tried to site something he may have had to position a point somewhere else where he could get another reading on off and go back to get around the bushes or whatever. There may have been a flag in your yard if there was no stake there I mean Mr. Mannion could share with your where the stakes are we got this from a license surveyor and I’m not sure where your property is, but. I don’t know. If this affects this are you an opposition to him being 4’ off of the property line.

Sheila Nicely stated, I don’t know that is what I’m saying where is that line, where are the trees that is what I’m asking. 4’ it makes no difference to me, but if you are going to kill the evergreens can’t you move up a 1’.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, so you want the evergreens to stay.

Sheila Nicely stated, depending if, do you know who’s they are.

Michael Mannion stated, they are mine, they are on my property.

Sheila Nicely stated, are they. Oh okay, well that is what I said I don’t know and I don’t like not knowing and yea I do object.

Michael Mannion stated, I thing I have fulfilled all of the requirements that the building department and the planning people set forth and I got the survey, if there is an objection to this survey the only alternative is for my good neighbors to get their own survey. If they object what can I do I have fulfilled all of the obligations that the building people have set forth and all I can do is wait for your decision. If there is an objection she can get her own survey.

Sheila Nicely stated, wait one second the thing I’m saying is if I thought we were good neighbors, I thought we were good neighbors until tonight.

Michael Mannion stated, I have no ill feelings towards you.

Sheila Nicely stated, but you are saying, you get your own surveyor out there.

Michael Mannion asked, do you have a fresh survey? An up to date survey.

Sheila Nicely stated, yes I do.

Michael Mannion stated, I’ve got one.

Sheila Nicely stated, look I told you I asked Milligan for it in August and he asked in October, then he said he was going to use Milligan and I said don’t bother he never comes out, so then the one afternoon I came home and Milligan had been there on a Monday. Tuesday I went to Milligan’s office and I said what are you doing are you ever and he said it is in the mail I was out there yesterday and I said oh for Mr. Mannion and how come you didn’t do my side. Oh yeah I did and he can claim whatever he wants but you know so my survey is exactly the same day as his.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, we need those documents for our files. I do want to verify Mr. Mannion you do have those pipes in the ground?

Michael Mannion stated, they are and there were flags on those pipes and we went back and they were gone I don’t know I’m not accusing anyone. When I came back the two flags in question are not there.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, flags can be moved and that is why they stake it.

Michael Mannion stated, yes the stakes are there. I checked them out.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, and you can verify that you will be 4’ off of your.

Michael Mannion stated, yes exactly.

David Scott stated, I’m going to vote for this and my reasoning is because even though you own the property here and he is wanting to move in the setback, this is really an unbuildable piece of property right here, I mean you can’t put a shed in there. If he was going to put his house there now where it is now and he wanted to build within 2’ of your property line I would vote against it, but where the garage is and the way the lot is shaped there this is really unfortunately no man’s land. I mean you can’t put anything in there besides trees and shrubs and things. He is not going affect anything that you are wanting to do as far a setback variance at some time or something. That is not going affect anything you are doing.

Sheila Nicely stated, okay, but now if there is an encroachment on my property line and it doesn’t now meet that 5’ or whatever.

David Scott stated, he has to be on his property he can’t encroach on your property.

Sheila Nicely stated, no but isn’t there a setback of 5’.

David Scott stated, uh…

Director Weaver stated, he is requesting a variance from that.

Sheila Nicely stated, and I’m saying no, not until I see where the lines are, I’m sorry I’m really want to see the line. He’s got enough room to go the other way too.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, my feeling Mrs. Nicely I understand what you are saying, but we are looking at evidence before us by a licensed registered surveyor if you are disputing what that license registered surveyor is saying then that is not an issue we can address here.

Sheila Nicely stated, I’m not saying that, I’m saying where is the line that is all I’m saying.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated we can give him permission at this meeting tonight, we can give him permission to build according to the plans and the drawings that he has in front of us and he is saying that he will be 4’ off of the line and it does appear that there are several stakes on that line and it is easily identified.

Sheila Nicely stated, the property line or where the garage is going.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated the property line should be easily identified with the stakes.

Sheila Nicely stated, yes.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, and he needs to build 4’ off of that.

Sheila Nicely stated, okay.

David Scott stated, what is the side setback.

Director Weaver stated, for a detached it is 5’.

Michael Mannion stated, that is not a problem I can move it over I don’t know where that 4’ came from.

David Scott stated, I was going to ask you and another reason for that I was just looking at that on that corner it looks like other people maybe use it for access.

Michael Mannion stated, yes they do.

David Scott stated, we don’t want to create a traffic hazard there as for as the line of site, if you can move over the 5’.

Michael Mannion stated, that is fine with me I can build a 17’ garage I really don’t care. The only reason I picked 18’ so that my wife could look out the kitchen window because the kitchen is right there and she can see who is coming and going. It can be 17’ I really don’t care, I want a garage for one car and my lawn mowers and all of the other things that go with it.

David Scott stated, personally I would prefer that you move over so we don’t have to give you a variance here.

Jerry Thompson stated, I foot means a lot.

Michael Mannion stated, maybe you can help me out though, detailed variance requesting a 29’ front set back, now isn’t that from y house to the beginning of Debby and Jack they are at 1005 E. Ohio.

Director Weaver stated, we are calling that the front.

David Scott stated, this is the front.

Michael Mannion stated, the front is facing Ohio.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, it shouldn’t be it’s on the lake.

Director Weaver stated, no in town it is treated as a R-2.

David Scott stated, so the North is his front property line. That is weird.

Director Weaver stated, yes, but it is an odd shape.

David Scott stated, if he moves a foot this way does it change there is he getting a variance for that.

Director Weaver stated, no that is the side.

David Scott stated, that is the side.

Director Weaver stated, I’m not saying we are right, but that is how we looked at it when we did this.

Attorney Altman asked, does he need a variance?

Director Weaver stated, yes from the front, the North side is his front. That is where his road access is. He can still move it back and he still needs the variance.

Michael Mannion stated, you lost me. Can I approach?

Jerry Thompson stated, yes.

Michael Mannion asked, is this the front?

David Scott stated, no she is saying this is the front.

Michael Mannion stated, so the side of the house is actually the front.

David Scott stated, yes.

Michael Mannion stated, okay.

Jerry Thompson stated, she is declaring it.

Michael Mannion stated, Mr. Milligan told me too that you are not going to like this but the side is the front.

Jerry Thompson stated, in some situations that is the case.

David Scott stated, is there a reason why you can’t move this over just a little.

Michael Mannion stated, yea we can move it. Well the property is here and we are 4’ off of that now. So I can move it 5’, it doesn’t matter to me.

Jerry Thompson stated, the more the merrier.

Michael Mannion stated, yes I’m cool about that.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, there is another gentleman in the audience.

Mike Miller stated, I’m Mike Miller. I’m their neighbors and I’m the builder these people are my friends and Mr. Mannion is my friend. The stakes are there, I was putting a new roof on the house when Mr. Milligan was there with his two nephews surveying the property and I did walk through with him and all the property stakes are on the ground that are on the survey, they are there. They were flagged, and there was some question of where the flags where, common sense would tell you when you are shooting a laser which is a red line if you’ve got to go through some bushes, or a fence that is existing that was existing there. There is going to be a little bit. If you look at Mr. Milligan’s survey it says that my survey is with in .0058 of an acre if a flag is a 1’ off or a 1’ there it is not a problem. Also we can come the 5’ off, we can make it s17’ wide and we can come off 5’ off the easement and that will give her 6’ off her property line. It won’t be a problem, we are not far enough from the house as far as attaching the garage to the house it is not that big of a deal. He has a low pitch roof, he’s got an upper existing wall there that we can attach the garage as far as the trusses to it. As far as the fire wall goes the building code is a 2 hour fire limit burn time so it can be 2’x4’ wall with 5/8 dry wall on it. That would give us the fire code if you didn’t approve the setback variance if we had to attach it to the house.

Michael Mannion stated, why are we trying to attach it tot he house, I really don’t want it attached garage. The only reason I used that figure was Mike told me to put it 6’ away.

Jerry Thompson stated, you don’t have to.

Michael Mannion stated, the biggest thing is that I’m 5’ from the Nicely’s. If I had this survey and it was done by Mr. Milligan and the stakes are there I feel that I’ve done my part.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any other questions?

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the property is properly zoned R-2, One and Two Family Residential.


2. That the lot was an existing lot of record at the time of enactment of the ordinance, as defined in Section 2.114.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit.


4. That objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request was amended for a 27’ front setback to build a new detached garage on a tract of land located in the South half of the South half of Section 34, Township 27, North, Range 3 West, in the City of Monticello, Union Township, White County, Indiana described by: Commencing at the Southwest Corner of said Section 34, thence South 89 degrees 17 minutes 00 seconds East along the Section line and the North right-of-way line of South Street, a distance of 1251.76; thence North 40 degrees 03 minutes 56 seconds East, a distance of 619.00 feet to an existing Iron Pin located at the Southwest corner of the Tyler property as described in Deed Record 1981, Pages 861-862,White County Recorder’s Office; thence North 05 degrees 55 minutes 25 seconds, East along and part of which being the West described line of the Jones Property as recorded in Deed Record 233, pages 14 & 15, a distance of 478.38 feet to an existing 1 ½ inch diameter Iron pin, located at the Northwest Corner of said Jones property and the South Right-of-way line of East Ohio Street; thence South 76 degrees 47 minutes 39 seconds East along the North line of the Jones property, and that part of the South right-of-way line of East Ohio Street, a distance of 396.80 feet to the point of beginning; thence South 76 degrees 47 minutes 39 seconds East a distance of 10.53 feet to an existing Iron Pipe; thence South 74 degrees 06 minutes 54 seconds East along the Northerly described line of a certain triangular tract of land, as first appearing in a deed to Samuel T. Howard from Vernon C. Schakel, dated July 13, 1972, and recorded in Deed Record Book 228, Page 45, being described from a survey, of which is recorded in Miscellaneous Record A-16 page 538, White County Recorder’s office, a distance of 109.10 feet to an existing iron pin; Thence continuing South 74 degrees 06 minutes 54 seconds East along the Southerly described line of a certain triangular Tract of Land, as first appearing in a deed to Vernon C. Schakel from Samuel T. Howard, dated July 13, 1974 and recorded in Deed record Book 228, page 44, being described from a survey of which is recorded in Miscellaneous Record Book A-16, Page 537, White County Recorder’s office a distance of 81.16 feet to the Northern Indiana Public Service Company’s West described line, as recorded in Deed Record Book 116, Page 64; thence South 54 degrees 10 minutes 41 seconds West along said Northern Indiana Public Service Company’s West Line, a distance of 71.17 feet; thence North 70 degrees 21 minutes 20 seconds West along and adjacent to (lying near or close to ) the Northerly Side of an existing concrete Block Wall, a distance of 145.02 feet to the West end of said Wall; thence North 01 degrees 15 minutes 49 seconds East a distance of 47.39 feet to the point of beginning, containing 0.205 acres, more or less.

COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located in the City of Monticello at 1007 E. Ohio Street.


7. That the variance herein authorized and granted is not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make typical or recurrent the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said condition or situation of the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variance is based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variance under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, you need to get your building before you proceed.

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#2518 Ronald M. King & Marion B. Ballard; The property is located on Lot 8 in Parse’s Forest Lodge Second Addition, North of Monticello at 4997 N. Canyon Loop.

Violation: Built a room additional out of compliance with the setback requirements.

Request: They are requesting a 13’ front setback variance to build a room addition, also a 4’ South side setback variance to bring the house into compliance.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, is there anyone here representing this request?

Director Weaver stated, no there is not. Yesterday we received a survey that was different than what we had presented to the board for tonight and because of that this request had to be tabled so it can be re-advertised.

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#2519 Jeffrey A. & Linda J. Hintz; The property is located on Lot 2 in the Walker, Jenner and Reynolds Addition, in the City of Monticello at 433 N. Illinois Street.

Violation: None

Request: They are requesting a 20’ front setback variance and a 5’ rear setback variance to build a detached garage with storage above. Also, a 19’ front setback variance and a 5’ rear setback variance to build a 6’ privacy fence.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, and you are?

Jeff Hintz stated, I’m Jeff Hintz and this is Linda Hintz. We are requesting a variance to put up a privacy fence. We have businesses on both sides, on the South Side and the East Side. With Redman’s and Allen Medical. We want to put fence so we can have some privacy in the back yard. We want to put a garage on the backside of the property, there is an existing slab there that we want to excavate. It was considered earlier that we might build on it, but the slab is not worth doing anything with, it is in pretty bad shape. Since it was going to be excavated we thought that would be the best place for our garage. We have 3 vehicles parking some out on Illinois St. and we would like to get some of them somewhere were we can have some storage space also.

Director Weaver stated, I would like to mention to the board to keep in mind when you look at this request that this property is not zoned Residential, it is zoned B-2 and it is grandfathered land.

Linda Hintz stated, since we are on the corner are side street has the front setbacks. Our lot is on 50’ wide and if you come in 25 and 6 it doesn’t leave much room to build a garage.

David Scott the proposed garage is going to be right on the alley line and the door would be going out to the North instead of..

Jeff Hintz stated, correct and I think what I measured the North side of the garage is going to be 17’ off of the street.

Attorney Altman stated, off the pavement.

Jeff Hintz stated, yes.

Jerry Thompson stated, this says that there will be storage above the garage for just storage.

Jeff Hintz stated, correct.

Linda Hintz stated, I just want it to have the pointed roof that our house has. That is why it got tall.

David Scott asked, can I ask you why you want to be right on the line at the alley?

Linda Hintz stated, it doesn’t have to be.

Jeff Hintz stated, to leave the yard as big as possible so we can have it open as much as we could in the big. The lot is narrow anyway.

Linda Hintz stated, I think we got that because that is where the slab was and we started with that, if that is a problem.

David Scott stated, normally we don’t let be right on the property line, we have at least something off of it. I understand what you are saying it is a small lot.

Attorney Altman stated, if you backed up 2’ off of the alley would that be okay with you. That would give some leave way there.

Jeff Hintz stated, yes.

Attorney Altman stated, 2’ would help a lot. It is a big garage but it is small lot.

Linda Hintz stated, yes.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, anymore questions from the board? Any questions from the audience?

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the building site is currently zoned B-2, General Business.


2. That the lot was an existing lot of record at the time of enactment of the ordinance, as defined in Section 2.114.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request was amended for a 20’ front setback variance and a 3’ rear setback variance to build a detached garage with storage above. Also, a 19’ front setback variance and a 3’ rear setback variance to build a 6’ privacy fence on Lot Number Two (2) in the Walker, Jenner and Reynolds Addition, to the Town, now City of Monticello, Indiana.

COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located in the City of Monticello at 433 N. Illinois Street.


7. That the variances herein authorized and granted are not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make reasonable practicable the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variances are based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variances under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, the applicant has agreed to amend their request to move it 2’ West off of the alley line and you need to get your building permit before you proceed.

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#2520 Mark L. Sterne & Kimberly K. Robinson and William J. & Kristi L. Rensberger; The property is located on Lot 7 & Part 8 Block 14 in O.P., in the Town of Brookston at 210 & 212 S. Prairie Street and 118 W. 3rd Street.

Violation: None

Request: They are requesting a 2’ front (Prairie St.) setback variance and a 25’ front (3rd St.) setback variance to put up 2 awnings on the building.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, and you are?

Kim Robinson stated, I’m Kim Robinson and basically what we are doing we are replacing the originally awning which was a wrap around. It used to cover the front part of the building and half way down. The front part of the building on the South side and halfway down on the West Side. The tenants that were in that part of the building left at the end of the year and took the awning with them. It was imprinted with their business name on it so basically we are just replacing the awnings. We are replacing the awning with two awnings.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, I’m looking at pictures that have awnings in place.

Kim Robinson stated, yes.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, are those the old awnings that are coming off?

Kim Robinson stated, let me see.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, they are green and white.

Kim Robinson stated, those are the new ones, those went up Tuesday.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, so you are really hoping this is passed.

Kim Robinson stated, pardon me. You know we were suppose to open our business May 1 and I can’t wait anymore, I need to get my business open so in order for us to finish inside we need to figure out where the awnings are going to be so we know where to place, we have a food business. The awnings are real important to us to shape, especially on the South side, we need to see where that shade is going to hit so we know where to place things inside. So we just need to get our business opened. Yeah we put the awnings up early.

Jerry Thompson asked, Kim do you own the building?

Kim Robinson stated, yes.

Jerry Thompson stated, okay, I didn’t know you had purchased the building.

Kim Robinson stated, purchased it end of 2004.

Attorney Altman stated, what I’m thinking is it is not noticed up for. It is noticed up for a potential variance. Doesn’t mean you have to act on it tonight though.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, so what you are saying Jerry is because there is no notice on the violation that is out of the discussion this evening, we can discuss the variance this evening and call her back for the violation and we will address that at the next meeting.

Attorney Altman stated, or you can table this until you notice the violation and entertain it all together like we do.

Jerry Thompson stated, I think, didn’t you pretty much replace what was there originally.

Kim Robinson stated, yes, it was a wrap around.

Jerry Thompson stated, does that carry any weight, I don’t know, I’m asking because I know what was there prior to them changing this. It is like tearing off the porch and building the same porch back on, all I’m saying.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, I do. Are we deciding to address this this evening? I don’t know that we can and I don’t think we can because there is no proper notice.

Jerry Thompson stated, I just thought I would throw that out there. We can talk about it later.

David Scott stated, I think we need to go ahead and vote on the variance and if, since they are already up if uh, if next month when we vote on the fine and if she has to take them down she will have to take them down. I make a motion that we hear the variance now.

Gary Barbour stated, I will second that.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, all in favor signify by saying “aye”. All opposed? Motion carried.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, are there any other questions from the board or how the proposed variance will appear?

Kim Robinson stated, so what do I do now, do I keep the sign in the window.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, we are going to address the variance now. You will know yes or no and then we will call you back at another time to address the violation.

Kim Robinson stated, sure.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, are there any questions from the board? Any questions from the audience?

Attorney Altman asked, is the awning in the front actually on the sidewalk?

Director Weaver stated, yes it over hangs the sidewalk, and it doesn’t have anything down on the sidewalk.

Attorney Altman asked, has the city agreed that you get that over the sidewalk?

Kim Robinson stated, you mean putting something on the sidewalk.

Attorney Altman stated, no, no like your neighbors to the East there is an encroachment into the sidewalk of their awning as is yours. Has the city approved that?

Kim Robinson stated, there has been no, I don’t know, no one has said anything to me.

Attorney Altman stated, I suggest that you call them.

David Scott stated, I know in our Town we have several of those awnings on the building and they go out over the sidewalk.

Attorney Altman stated, they should get the approval of the town to do that and if they get that then I don’t think it is a problem because it is a convenient to everybody properly put in. So it is high enough and solid enough and it is with everyone else’s. That is what I’m saying. The town board should say, yes it is okay.

Kim Robinson asked, where do I go, do I go talk to Max?

Jerry Thompson stated, that would be a good place to start.

Director Weaver stated, if this variance is approved do we need that prior to the building permit.

Attorney Altman stated, a simple letter from them would be fine.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, do we need the Town’s approval before a building permit is issued or?

Attorney Altman stated, yes.

Director Weaver asked, on a written approval?

Attorney Altman stated, yes on a letter saying it is okay.

Kim Robinson stated, so I need to get a letter from the Town and bring it.

Jerry Thompson stated, they will approve it, most of the businesses have them.

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the building site is currently zoned B-2, General Business.


2. That the lot was an existing lot of record at the time of enactment of the ordinance, as defined in Section 2.114.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners. That the

applicant must obtain the approval of the Town of Brookston, In for the awning before the building permit can be issued.


6. That the request is for a 2’ front (Prairie St.) setback variance and a 25’ front (3rd St.) setback variance to put up 2 awnings on the building on Part of Lots 7 & 8, Block 14 of the Original Plat of the Town of Brookston, White County, Indiana, described:

Commencing at the Southeast corner of Lot 7, Block 14 of the Original Plat of the Town of Brookston: thence West along the South line of said Lot 7, a distance of 98.0 feet to the point of beginning; thence West 42.0 feet to the Southwest corner of Lot 7; thence North 100.00 feet to the Northwest corner of Lot 8; thence East along the North line of Lot 8, a distance of 55.0 feet; thence South 47.6 feet; thence West 13.0 feet; thence South 52.4 feet to the place of beginning;

Except Part of Lot Seven, Block Fourteen of the Original plat of the Town of Brookston in the Northwest Quarter of Section 22, Township 25 North Range 4 West of Second Principal meridian, White County, Indiana, more particularly described as follows: Commencing at the Northwest Corner of aforesaid Section 22, a P.K. Nail set from Witnesses; thence South Zero Degrees, Forty-nine Minutes and Thirty Seconds East (S 00 49’ 30” E) Bearings abstracted from Section Plat, White County Surveyor’s office, along the West line of aforesaid Section 22, a distance of Nine Hundred Seventeen and Seventy-four Hundredths feet (917.74’) to a point of intersection with the North Line of Third Street prolonged; thence North Eighty-nine degrees, Forty-eight Minutes and fifty-nine seconds East (N 89 48’ 59” E) along the North Line of Third Street prolonged and the North Line of Third Street a distance of Two Hundred Twenty-four and Forty-nine hundredths feet (224.49’) to the Southwest corner of aforesaid lot Seven for the point of beginning; thence North Zero degrees, Eleven Minutes and Fifty Seconds West (N 00 11’ 50” W) along the West Line of aforesaid Lot Seven and the East Line of Prairie Street a distance of Sixteen and Zero Hundredths Feet (16.00’) to a P.K. Nail set this survey; thence South Forty-five degrees, and through the Land Rex A. Hendryx and Georgia L. Hendryx, a distance of Twenty-two and Sixty-three hundredths feet (22.63’) to a P.K. Nail set this survey on the North line of Third Street and the South Line of aforesaid Lot Seven; thence South Eighty-nine Degrees, Forty-eight Minutes and Fifty-nine Seconds West (S 89 48’ 59” W) along the North Line of Third Street and the South Line of aforesaid Lot Seven a distance of Sixteen and Zero Hundredths feet (16.00’) to the point of beginning containing 128 square feet.


COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located in the Town of Brookston at 210 & 212 S. Prairie Street. and 118 W. 3rd Street.


7. That the variances herein authorized and granted are not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make reasonable practicable the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variances are based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variances under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, you need to get a building permit as well as consent from the town to have the encroachment.

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#2521 Thomas J. & Rosemary Stanton; The property is located on Lot 27 in Lake Shore Village, located off the North side of East Shafer Drive West of St. Rd. 39 at 6106 N. Lake Road 67 E.

Violation: None

Request: They are requesting a 21’ front setback variance and a 2’ North side setback variance to build a new attached garage.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, you are?

Perry McWilliams stated, not Thomas Stanton, I’m Perry McWilliams. I’m the builder, maybe unless you deny the variance.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, you are representing them, do you have any kind of statement.

Attorney Altman stated, I have a letter here that is in the file.

(read the letter)

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, what do you care to share with us this evening?

Perry McWilliams stated, Tom wants to build a garage. It is an odd lot, he bought this a couple of months ago. Very strange lot how that is configured there. Just wants to put a garage on there.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, the 21’ front setback variance, is that off of a private roadway, is that what that says?

Director Weaver stated, yes.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, then on the right side that would be the East Side is a driveway?

Director Weaver stated, it is all one continuance.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, so it is a private driveway.

Director Weaver stated, yes.

Perry McWilliams stated, the nice part about this garage and how it is going in there, really the neighbor next to it, there is a pretty big open field there and even all of those lots out there generally speaking kind of a lot of space you have to deal with. The only issue at all I think is that proximity to the road there on that front setback. Even so I don’t know you vision is still pretty good around there, it is not I don’t see it as a problem.

David Scott asked, is he going to access that from the front?

Perry McWilliams stated, yes you tell me.

David Scott asked, is he going to access it from the 24’ wide, the doors on the 24?

Jerry Thompson stated make current use of the stone driveway.

Perry McWilliams stated, exactly, we are going to change the roof system to make half way decent and not build some stupid rectangle. Make it look halfway decent.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any other questions?

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the property is properly zoned R-2, One and Two Family Residential.


2. That the lot was an existing lot of record at the time of enactment of the ordinance, as defined in Section 2.114.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request is for requesting a 21’ front setback variance and a 2’ North side setback variance to build a new attached garage on Lot Numbered Twenty-seven (27) in Lake Shore Village, a subdivision in Liberty Township, White County, Indiana as per plat thereof recorded in Plat Book 1, page 72 in the office of the Recorder of White County, Indiana.

COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located off the North side of East Shafer Drive, West of St. Rd. 39 at 6106 N. Lake Rd 67 E.


7. That the variances herein authorized and granted are not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make reasonable practicable the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variances are based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variances under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, you need to get your building permit before you proceed.

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#2522 John M. & Susan M. O’Dea; The property is located on Lot 44 in Isle of Homes, located at Lake Road 10 E off of East Shafer Drive and go to 3181 N. Cardinal Drive.

Violation: None

Request: They are requesting a 14’ rear setback variance and a 7’ South side setback variance to build an attached garage and to bring the existing home into compliance.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, you are?

Perry McWilliams stated, I’m Perry McWilliams and I’m the builder.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, we do have documentation that you are representing them. Do you have anything to add to this?

Perry McWilliams stated, this project here, John I meet him a few months ago and the neat thing about John is he is a big Chicago White Sox’s fan okay and this is what I like about him. He brought me a Chicago White Sox hat autographed by Paul Kernorko, he went to the World Series and he is like up great seats. We want to build a garage, a 3 car garage, I think there is a 10’ breezeway plotted on there as well. That is what he wants to do, we are not going any closer that what the existing home is right now. To the property line, we have to bring it into compliance because by Katie Wolf’s house we are like 4’ away. We had to get a variance anyway. So why not let’s build a garage?

Director Weaver asked, are they keeping the garage on the other side?

Perry McWilliams stated, no they are not. What they are going to do is really do away from that façade. Now I don’t know when they are going to finish it off. So don’t say get a building permit for that because I know their master plan is again to get rid of those garage doors and use that as livable space down the road and eliminate some of that asphalt and stuff in there. Do some landscaping where it comes in there. Our new garage obviously is going to be where you will have to turn to get into it there will be three doors that you will be turning in there.

Director Weaver asked, so they are going to enter the garage from the south?

Perry McWilliams stated, yes that is correct. Again what we are going to do is I hate the long rectangle stuff so our roof system is going to run opposite of what he has there. The breezeway will continue that 10’ just like that roof system there and then that garage, the roof system will go opposite to give it some agriculture element there.

Jerry Thompson stated, if you are going to enter the garage from the South.

Perry McWilliams stated, yes.

David Scott stated, on our new thing we are doing now, the new ordinance is going to be 20’

Director Weaver stated, this is what this is now.

Director Weaver asked, what is this going to do to that grinder?

Perry McWilliams stated, it is okay, I mean it is still far enough away from the location of where we are building from. Our new hookup will actually go through that breezeway so we will have to put sleeves on there to run our new line through that area there. It is out of the building itself.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, if you were to loose the breezeway, you wouldn’t need so much of a variance.

Perry McWilliams stated, that is exactly right. We wouldn’t as close to the road by what 10’.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, no you wouldn’t by 10’. So there is the possibility that you could provide a new garage on this property without a 14’ variance.

Perry McWilliams stated, I would agree with that 100%, there is a strong possibility. If you would say hay I don’t like this breezeway here it is to close to the road, but the garage is okay, I would understand that, but the owners of course are requesting that the breezeway be on there with the garage.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, can you show any manner of hardship as to why that needs to be that close to the roadway?

Perry McWilliams stated, you know at this time I would not have evidence to prove what you are saying for hardship, no I would say probably not.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, is this proximity to the roadway common to that area?

Perry McWilliams stated, there is some stuff out there and with out tape measuring stuff I don’t know what did you see Diann when you went out there.

Director Weaver stated, I don’t remember seeing anything that close.

Perry McWilliams stated, not that close to its benefit to argue on their behalf it is on a dead end that is the positive as far as traffic. They are I don’t know the 3rd house from the end.

Attorney Altman stated, the 10’ would be real good positive in getting the variance.

Perry McWilliams asked, can we negotiate and let’s do business right now? Say I’m going to get rid of this 10’ breezeway you guys go ahead and pass the variance for the garage does that make sense? Compromise.

Jerry Thompson stated, I would feel better about it.

Perry McWilliams stated, I would to.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, we will allow you to build 17’ off of the roadway.

Perry McWilliams stated, yes.

Director Weaver stated, that 7’ doesn’t not include the overhang. That is not showing there. It is to the foundation.

Attorney Altman stated, even more reason the 10’ is important.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, any more questions or comments? Any questions or comments from the audience. So what you have agreed to Mr. McWilliams is that you agree to build the garage without the breezeway and we will grant you to build up to 17’.

Perry McWilliams stated, I agree.

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the property is properly zoned L-1, Lake District


2. That the lot was an existing lot of record at the time of enactment of the ordinance, as defined in Section 2.114.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request was amended to request a 3’ rear setback variance and a 7’ South side setback variance to build an attached garage and to bring the existing home into compliance on Lot Numbered Forty-four (44) in the Isle of Homes Subdivision situated in Sections 8, 9, and 16, Township 27 North, Range 3 West in Union and Liberty Township, in the County of White, State of Indiana.

COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located North of Monticello, take Lake Road 10E off of East Shafer Drive and go to 3181 N. Cardinal Drive.


7. That the variances herein authorized and granted are not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make reasonable practicable the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variances are based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variances under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, on condition that it would be no closer than 17’ from the roadway rather than 7’ as amended. You need to get your building permit before you start.

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#2523 James O. Beliles, Sr.; The property is located on .20 of an acre, NE NE 33-27-4, located in the Town of Reynolds on the Southwest corner of First Street and Boone Street.

Violation: None

Request: He is requesting 10’ front setback variance (First St.) and a 10’ front setback variance (Boone St) to place a new home on the property.

President Carol Stradling asked, and you are representing Mr. Beliles?

Randy Williams stated, Randy Williams, good evening. Law firm out of Lafayette, I have been representing Jim for awhile. We were here a few years ago when Jim was in violation and we decided to do everything in order. We’ve gone through this property, you started with a rezone in Reynolds. We went from B-2 to R-4, that has been approved by the town and I forwarded a comment to Jerry for the use of the… What the commitment is basically we are cleaning up and if you have seen that we are cleaning that up. By taking out on this particular lot, 6 single wide trailers that have varying ages going back into the 1970’s. I’ve got the title here. What Jim has decided to do is take those out and the other corner he is taking 8 out to put in one home. Out on the highway he is just replacing what is there single wide with a modular. He already has, if you have been out there, he has placed two modulars which meet all the requirements and rezonings. He is wanting to do the same thing here. The size of the house he is planning on putting there is a 56’ x 26’ with a 24’ x 24’ attached. It is my understanding it has been a little while, Mr. Milligan came in with the new drawing.

Director Weaver stated, I don’t that we have got one.

Randy Williams stated, he has not done that, okay.

Director Weaver stated, we were just proceeding with the way you had requested it.

Randy Williams stated, okay, it was our understanding that the new drawing from Mr. Milligan would show that we might not need quite as much of a setback. If that is the case we will go with whatever Mr. Milligan’s drawing shows, the new one. He had presented something we were understanding in regards to this particular site. Again we are doing what we can to clean up what has been out there forever, we just ask for you approval. Again Jerry have you seen the commitment.

Attorney Altman stated, yes and a copy of Diann and the board has a copy of it here tonight. If the board see fit to approve this it would be binding on Mr. Beliles.

Randy Williams stated, just for a little more when we were at the Town of Reynolds we made a commitment to them upon approval once everything is approved Jim is going to come in and take the trailers out. We have a time commitment with the town to get those trailers out and I want to say it is 6 months, it may not be that long. We made a commitment to the town as a part of our discussion. I don’t think the setback talks about 10’ from 32’ to 22’, it really isn’t that much. I think the town is happy it is being done and everyone is appreciative of it.

Attorney Altman stated, this is on the city water, and sewer.

Randy Williams stated, yes, he is paying for all of the connections.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, you said something about a new drawing. We can’t.

Randy Williams stated, I understand, we had been told and we had sent a letter to him and if it could be moved and he may have presented something.

Director Weaver stated, we had talked to him about it, but we never received the actually survey.

We can still amend that to do that.

Vice President Carol Stradling stated, the dimensions of the lot will not change.

Randy Williams stated, correct.

Director Weaver stated, no what we had discussed was just trying to set it back to met the setbacks.

Randy Williams stated, we would be requesting no more that what is there, the final survey by Mr. Milligan would be the print for which the building permit is sought.

David Scott asked, what is the rear setback?

Director Weaver stated, in an R-4 the rear is 20’ and the sides in 6’. So he can actually move the home to the West and to the South to get it away from the corner a little bit. Even with this plan he is farther way from the property lines that what is existing.

Randy Williams stated, those may be encroaching can’t really tell.

Attorney Altman stated, we can certainly go with that that way.

Randy Williams stated, it would lesson the variance we need.

Vice President Carol Stradling asked, anymore questions from the board or the audience?

Without further discussion the board voted.

The Board finds the following:

1. That the property is properly zoned R-4, One Family Residences and Mobile Home Parks

2. That the lot was an existing lot of record at the time of enactment of the ordinance, as defined in Section 2.114.


3. That the site plan survey provided shows the lot size, existing improvements and proposed improvements, see file for exhibit.


4. That no objectors were present at the meeting.


5. That proper notice was given by mail to adjoining property owners.


6. That the request is for 10’ front setback variance (First St.) and a 10’ front setback variance (Boone St.) to place a new home on the property.


A tract of land located in the Northeast Quarter ¼ of the Northeast Quarter (1/4) of Section Thirty-three (33), Township Twenty-seven (27) North, Range Four (4) West in the Town of Reynolds, White County, Indiana, and described more fully as follows: Beginning at a point which is West Sixty (60) feet from the Northwest corner of Lot Number Eight (8) in block Four (4) in the Original Plat of the Town of Reynolds and running thence West Seventy-four (74) feet to the West Line of the Northeast Quarter (1/4) of the Northeast Quarter (1/4) of the above said Section Thirty-three (33) thence South One Hundred Twenty (120) feet thence East Seventy-four (74) feet to the West Line of Boone Street thence North One Hundred Twenty (120) feet to the point of beginning, containing two-tenths (.2) of an acres more or less.

COMMON DESCRIPTION: The property is located in the Town of Reynolds on the Southwest corner of First Street and Boone Street.


7. That the variances herein authorized and granted are not so typical or recurrent in nature as to make reasonable practicable the formulation of a general regulation under an amendment of the ordinance for the above said specific piece of property, and the Board additionally finds that the above said variances are based on the findings of fact so made that are required to be made under the provisions of Section 10.10 of the White County Zoning Ordinance, said findings of fact support and create a fact situation that authorizes the above said variances under the above said sections of the zoning ordinance.


The variance was granted based on the findings of fact by a vote of 4 affirmative and 0 negative.


Attorney Altman stated, you need to get your building permit before you proceed.


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Vice President Carol Stradling asked, what other business do we have before us?

Jerry Thompson asked, we can not discuss anymore on the awnings?

Attorney Altman stated, no.

The meeting adjourned.

Respectfully submitted,

Gary Barbour, Secretary

Diann Weaver, Director

White County Area Plan Commission