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July 5, 2011


The White County Drainage Board convened at 10:30 A. M. in the Commissioners’ Room of the White County Building, Monticello, Indiana.  Board members present were:  President Ronald Schmierer, Vice President Steve Burton, and Drainage Board Member John Heimlich.  Also present were Attorney George W.  Loy, Surveyor Bradley Ward and Drainage Assistant Mary Sterrett.

Also in attendance were:

Sharon Watson-White County Soil and Water   
Tony Cain-T&M Cain Enterprises
Dale Kelly-Dale Kelly Construction

The first item on the agenda was to approve the minutes from the June 20th, 2011 White County Drainage Board Meeting.  Board Member Steve Burton so moved.  Board Member John Heimlich seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.

Next on the agenda-Update on Spraying Projects for 2011 (out of order)

Surveyor Ward stated, “I believe the company we…Right of Way Management are just about done if they are not done already.  I think they had their last Township to do Friday.  That was Big Creek I believe.”

Chairman Schmierer asked, “Does it look like they are doing a decent job or not?”

Surveyor Ward answered, “The one (1) ditch that I did see after they were there some of the taller weeds had started to wilt with in twenty-four (24) hours.  I am going to start going out this week and following their route and progress.  That is where we are at on that.  They are probably done they are moving pretty quick.  They are doing a little over a township a day and they called every morning.”

Chairman Schmierer replied, “Good.”

Next Surveyor Ward discussed the Ida Lahr Tile

Surveyor Ward continued, “The Ida Lahr Tile, it is the tile that runs from Chalmers Blacktop on Three Hundred (300) East and takes off  Southeast.  It is not getting out real fast.  It is a little too wet to find out where the tile might be broken down at.  That is where Range Line was under water for a few days last week.”

Chairman Schmierer asked, “On Denton’s there?”

Surveyor Ward replied, “Yeah, on Gordon Denton’s farm.”

Chairman Schmierer said, “That tile there has been a problem.  We have worked on that, worked on it, worked on it and worked on it.”

Surveyor Ward replied, “It is coming out of the out let as much as it can handle.”

Chairman Schmierer asked, “Down at Schwambergers back in there?  That is not a very big tile.”

Board Member Heimlich replied, “Every rain that has come through there….”

Surveyor Ward said, “It just keeps filling it up.”

Chairman Schmierer replied, “John (Board Member Heimlich), actually we have worked on that.  It is only about an eight (8) inch tile is about all that is.  I just doubt if it is broke down.”

Surveyor Ward said, “It can’t handle it.  You can’t even get close enough to where the tile runs to even look at it but we were there.”

Next Surveyor Ward talked about Indian Creek

Surveyor Ward said, “It is in the twenty (20) day Judicial Review right now, I believe that is what it is called.  We haven’t heard anything.  If it is going to go to court or not.”

Board Member Heimlich responded, “You haven’t heard anything, I would be surprised if it didn’t we will see.  Maybe they did some math and…..”

Next on the agenda-Open the Maintenance Quotes on the Walter Diener Branch of the Esther Fraser Drain #535

Attorney Loy stated, “We have quotes from:”

Dale Kelly Construction:      $9,720.00   
Dennis Sparks & Son:    $8,152.00
T&M Cain Enterprises:    $8,450.00

Board Member Heimlich asked, “What was your estimate?”

Surveyor Ward replied, “Eight-five Hundred Dollars ($8,500.00).”

Chairman Schmierer asked, “Is Spark’s the low bid, is it in order?”

Attorney Loy stated, “Just take a look what he proposes to do is what you want done.”

Chairman Schmierer asked, “Is that all right?”

Surveyor Ward replied, “Yes.”

Board Member Heimlich made the motion to approve the quote of Dennis Sparks and Son to do the Maintenance Project on the Walter Diener Branch of the Esther Fraser Drain #535. In the amount of Eight Thousand, One Hundred and Fifty-two Dollars ($8,152.00).  Board Member Burton seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.

Board Member Burton stated, “We appreciate your effort in participating.”

Board Member Heimlich replied, “We have had a few lately that you would wonder if they were bidding on the same project because there was such a wide variation.”

Chairman Schmierer said, “We appreciate you bidding because you never know.  Sometime we maybe get only one (1) quote so we appreciated it.  I know it don’t do you any good if you don’t get them but by the same token you can’t get them if you don’t quote either.”

The next discussion was regarding the Henry Stewart Tile South of Brookston

Board Member Burton stated, “I know the weather  hasn’t change on the tile south of Brookston. Ironically I was just going to pass this along to you.   Steve Brooke (White County Highway Department) was in here talking about the Henry Stewart. The State has approached him about doing some work on the County Tile there to relieve the water pressure that comes across State Highway 43 as it did last week end.  Steve (Brooke) doesn’t know the history and anyway you look at it, it is not going to help.”

Surveyor Ward replied, “I was looking at it this morning with a lady.  There is just too much water to get under the railroad track that is part of the problem.  The water shed  is so big that rail road track is part of the problem there.”

Board Member Burton stated, “As fast as it comes from the west side of State Road 43.”

Board Member Heimlich asked, “How big is the opening is under the railroad?”

Surveyor Ward replied, “It is probably six (6) feet, eight (8) feet wide.  It gets narrow when it gets in there and then once it gets across it gets narrow again.  The water way is probably only one (1) foot wide.”

Chairman Schmierer stated, “Part of the problem is that it is higher at the railroad tracks than where the water is coming from.  The water has to run up hill you might say down there.  Every time that I have looked at it that’s been the problem.”

Surveyor Ward replied, “There is just a lot of water wanting to go through there.”

Board Member Burton stated, “When an event happens it is just not going to handle it.  I just thought it was ironic that Steve (Brooke) said the State had approached him about it”

Surveyor Ward said, “She said the State was down there Thursday maybe doing something.”

Drainage Assistant Sterrett added, “Cleaning it out.”

Surveyor Ward replied, “Cleaning out side ditches or something.”

Board Member Heimlich replied, “They are probably out there again”

Chairman Schmierer asked if there was anything more for the White County Drainage Board and with no response Chairman Schmierer adjourned the  July 5, 2011 White County Drainage Board Meeting.