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April 16, 2012

 

The White County Drainage Board convened at 10:30 A. M. in the Commissioners’ Room of the White County Building, Monticello, Indiana. Board members present were: Chairman Steve Burton, Drainage Board Member John Heimlich and Drainage Board Member David Diener. Also present were Attorney George W. Loy, Surveyor Bradley Ward and Drainage Assistant Mary Sterrett.

 

Also in attendance were:

Sharon Watson-Soil and Water

Kenneth Smith

AECOM Engineer-Todd Frauhiger

 

The April 16, 2012 White County Drainage Board was called to order by Chairman Steve Burton.

 

The first item on the agenda was to approve the minutes from the April 2, 2012 White County Drainage Board Meeting. Board Member John Heimlich so moved. Board Member David Diener seconded the motion. Motion carried.

 

Next on the agenda-Girtz Industries Drainage Review

Viewing computer generated plans of the site

 

Engineer Todd Frauhiger presented the Girtz Industries Drainage Review to the White County Drainage Board.

Engineer Frauhiger stated, “What Girtz are doing is looking at approximately and four (4) acre parking lot east of their existing facilities. Currently there is a field tile, a private field tile, they are not quite sure where the outlet is or where it goes. The undeveloped area drains to a low spot into a field riser and drains off the property. Obviously with four (4) acres of gravel this is not paved this is going to be a gravel parking lot. They had to meet the requirements of the Drainage Ordinance. They are putting in a new storm water system to collect the run off from this property with a number of inlets on it. A new detention pond at the corner of the gravel parking lot with a two (2) stage discharge. The lower discharge is going to be a twenty-four (24) inch pipe with a weir plate. The higher discharge would be a twelve (12) inch pipe above the twenty-four (24) inch pipe also with a weir discharge plate and orifice plate. They are restricting their flows to the required two (2) year pre-development and ten (10) year pre-developed flows. That pond will then outlet into a new storm sewer system goes over and ties in to an existing thirty-six (36) of their own sewer system which then discharges into the lake. I have been out to this site a number of times and I think I was out there with Denny a couple of times looking at that discharge pipe. There are no problems. There are no problems with the Township property that it goes through. They have met the Drainage Ordinance. Their calculations for the detention were good, I agreed with their orifice calculations, weir calculations and pond sizing. They have got more than adequate capacity in their storm sewer. I would recommend approval.”

Surveyor Ward said, “This is the one that we gave temporary approval two (2) weeks ago so they could start moving dirt.”

Board Member Diener asked, “The new retention pond, I thought they had an existing retention pond?”

Engineer Frauhiger replied, “They do up in the corner.”

Board Member Diener asked, “So it has nothing to do with the existing retention pond?”

Engineer Frauhiger replied, “That is correct and they have extended the existing pond a couple of times with other additions. That one is a wet bottom and this one will be a dry bottom.”

Chairman Burton asked for a motion to approve the Drainage Plan for Girtz Industries Addition Project.

Board Member Diener made a motion to approve the Drainage Plan for Girtz Industries Addition as presented and reviewed. Board Member Heimlich seconded the motion. Motion carried.

 

Next on the agenda-Open Quotes on the J. A. Washburn Drain #598 Maintenance Project

 

Attorney Loy presented the quotes to the White County Drainage Board for the J. A. Washburn Maintenance Project. Six (6) invitations to quote were sent and five (5) quotes were received. Quotes were as follows:

Blackman Excavating: $9,500.00

County Line Tiling/Excavating: $5,280.00

Dennis Sparks and Son: $9,200.00

Gutwein Excavating: $6,200.00

Howe Excavating: $8,150.00

 

The White County Drainage Board discussed the project, the Surveyor’s estimated cost of the project at Eleven Thousand, Five Hundred Dollars ($11,500.00) and the bids that were received.

Board Member Diener made the motion to accept the low bid from County Line Tiling/Excavating of Five Thousand, Two Hundred and Eighty Dollars ($5,280.00). Board Member Heimlich seconded the motion. Motion carried.

 

Next on the agenda-Town of Brookston (IOOF Cemetery) Request for Consent to Encroach the

J. F. French Drain #536 Regulated Drain

Viewing a plan prepared by Kenneth Smith

 

  1. Kenneth Smith present to represent the Town of Brookston and the IOOF Cemetery.

  2. Surveyor Ward explained the purpose of the encroachment. The Town of Brookston-IOOF

Cemetery asking to encroach thirty-seven and one half feet (37 ½) feet to top of bank on the J. F. French Drain for improvements and future expansion of the cemetery, burial plots.

  1. Todd Frauhiger interjected that the cul-de-sac on the plans appears to be inside the ditch right

of way. Kenneth Smith said that the plan would be revised by sliding the cul-de-sac back.

 

Board Member Heimlich made a motion to grant the Consent to Encroach to J, F. French Drain

to the IOOF Cemetery. Board Member Diener seconded the motion. Vote 2 in favor and Chairman Burton abstained from voting due to personal interest in the cemetery. Motion carried with the majority vote.

 

Next discussion the ball fields possibly to be called Milt Cole's Sport Complex

 

John Heimlich asked Surveyor Ward all his question had been answered on the ball fields and Dave Jordan’s issue with the drainage on the property.

l. The original plan was to take the water to the Kassaburm County Regulated Tile. The plan now is that all ten (10) acres will be privately tiled into Vogel’s private tile.

2. It will be paid for privately.

3. Board Member Heimlich stated that if it is all private no Drainage Board approval will be needed.

4. They will be putting in a small retention ponds basically to use the dirt to build up the ball fields.

5. Ponds will be emptied into a private tile into and a private ditch.

 

Next discussions directed to Engineer Frauhiger

 

  1. Engineer Frauhiger brought to the attention of the Drainage Board that he and Surveyor Ward

need to meet with the new City Mayor. The previous administration had said that any improvement project within the City would have to meet the County Drainage Ordinance regardless if it falls within a regulated drain or not. Engineer Frauhiger has talk to Doug Roberts and Joe Mower and they think that is still in effect but there needs to be a meeting with the new administration.

  1. Chairman Burton talked about the Halstead Substation. Engineer Frauhiger stated he and

the Surveyor had looked at it and it is not how he expected it to be built. Once he saw that the weir was build flat against the ground he ran the calculations even as screwy as at looks it will still restrict the flow and it would work. It is because of the width. When he looked at it he was expecting to see the weir elevated with a small discharge pipe under it. It is not what he expected to see but since they made it out of stone he measured off the width and it looks like it is going work. Chairman Burton said he was sure when they met out there that the design had some kind of tile or culvert underneath. Engineer Frauhiger said that his suggestion was a sheet piled weir with an orifice hole underneath the actual weir elevation to let the water out. They didn’t use sheet pile they constructed a rip rap weir. They didn’t do what he had recommended but because of the width it still should work. The only other thing we can do if you go back what we talked about is drive a sheet pile in to the existing rip rap weir, raise it up and put in a twelve (12) inch orifice hole in the bottom of the sheet pile. It was flooded downstream when we were there but it didn’t look like it was flooding because the operation of the pond. It is just a low area in there it takes a lot a surrounding run off. Chairman Burton said on major rain events the farmer is going to lose that low spot anyway. The farmer concern was that it was constructed correctly or not. Engineer Frauhiger said there are two things that help is that pond it take a while to get it filled up and get out; also the width of the weir. Engineer Frauhiger is going to call the farmer, Steve Zarse, and explain the issue to him.

 

With nothing else for the White County Drainage Board Chairman Burton adjourned the April 16, 2012 White County Drainage Board Meeting.

 

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